1 00:00:01,898 --> 00:00:04,797 [soft music] 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 3 00:00:04,901 --> 00:00:07,697 ♪ 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 5 00:00:18,949 --> 00:00:22,022 [soft indistinct chatter] 6 00:00:31,790 --> 00:00:34,655 [music playing in distance] 7 00:00:44,527 --> 00:00:49,601 - Everything was a challenge that needed to be conquered. 8 00:00:49,704 --> 00:00:52,604 [rock music building] 9 00:00:52,707 --> 00:00:54,502 ♪ 10 00:00:54,606 --> 00:00:57,160 It was always, we have something to prove, 11 00:00:57,264 --> 00:01:00,336 a wall to break down. 12 00:01:00,439 --> 00:01:04,823 We're gonna, like, melt people's fucking faces off 13 00:01:04,926 --> 00:01:07,964 because they expected us to suck. 14 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:14,039 ♪ 15 00:01:14,143 --> 00:01:15,558 - We were literally out there 16 00:01:15,661 --> 00:01:17,629 with people throwing pint glasses at our heads 17 00:01:17,732 --> 00:01:19,700 and pulling their dicks out at us. 18 00:01:19,803 --> 00:01:21,633 ♪ 19 00:01:21,736 --> 00:01:26,120 But we have a superpower when we're together. 20 00:01:26,224 --> 00:01:28,502 ♪ 21 00:01:28,605 --> 00:01:31,505 - And it was like us against everybody. 22 00:01:31,608 --> 00:01:33,162 It was like us against the world. 23 00:01:33,265 --> 00:01:36,130 [rock music] 24 00:01:36,234 --> 00:01:43,379 ♪ 25 00:01:49,937 --> 00:01:50,834 [music stops] 26 00:01:52,802 --> 00:01:55,253 - Grateful Dead girlfriends over here or something? 27 00:01:55,356 --> 00:01:57,427 - Wait! We're totally not ready. 28 00:01:57,531 --> 00:01:58,532 - What do you mean you're not ready? 29 00:01:58,635 --> 00:02:00,189 You're ready when we introduce you! 30 00:02:00,292 --> 00:02:01,638 - Rock 'n' roll! 31 00:02:01,742 --> 00:02:03,813 - Yeah, we're trying. [indistinct shouts] 32 00:02:03,916 --> 00:02:04,848 - I'd like to introduce 33 00:02:04,952 --> 00:02:06,885 the Grateful Dead girlfriends now. 34 00:02:06,988 --> 00:02:07,989 Forget it. 35 00:02:08,093 --> 00:02:09,991 Scratch that joke from the record. 36 00:02:10,095 --> 00:02:11,131 You ready? 37 00:02:11,234 --> 00:02:12,339 - Donny Osmond. 38 00:02:12,442 --> 00:02:14,410 - You ready? [crowd cheering] 39 00:02:14,513 --> 00:02:16,412 Well, don't fuckin' be sophisticated. 40 00:02:16,515 --> 00:02:18,552 Make some noise or somethin'. 41 00:02:18,655 --> 00:02:20,968 This is punk rock, you knuckleheads! 42 00:02:21,071 --> 00:02:22,107 [drums playing] 43 00:02:22,211 --> 00:02:26,249 Welcome the Lunachicks! 44 00:02:26,353 --> 00:02:29,425 [Lunachicks' "C.I.L.L."] 45 00:02:29,528 --> 00:02:31,254 ♪ 46 00:02:31,358 --> 00:02:33,394 - ♪ RIP out the ugly eyes of you ♪ 47 00:02:33,498 --> 00:02:35,810 ♪ I tear your yawning jaw apart ♪ 48 00:02:35,914 --> 00:02:37,536 - When I first heard of the Lunachicks, 49 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:39,262 I was like, what the fuck is this? 50 00:02:39,366 --> 00:02:41,091 This is amazing, it was hilarious, 51 00:02:41,195 --> 00:02:42,472 and it was rocking. 52 00:02:42,576 --> 00:02:43,715 It kind of reminded me of Beastie Boys, 53 00:02:43,818 --> 00:02:46,235 where it was just, like, punk rock but funny. 54 00:02:46,338 --> 00:02:48,098 [rock music] 55 00:02:48,202 --> 00:02:50,308 - Really aggressive rock, 56 00:02:50,411 --> 00:02:52,551 with all this drama to it, 57 00:02:52,655 --> 00:02:55,485 and yet also, like, with a wink and a nod. 58 00:02:55,589 --> 00:02:57,936 To me, they were like, wow, that's the whole package. 59 00:02:58,039 --> 00:02:59,213 ♪ 60 00:02:59,317 --> 00:03:01,629 - They were tough, they were dirty, gritty. 61 00:03:01,733 --> 00:03:04,529 They had a bad-ass New York attitude, 62 00:03:04,632 --> 00:03:06,703 but they were really funny. 63 00:03:06,807 --> 00:03:08,429 - It was kind of rad and inspiring 64 00:03:08,533 --> 00:03:10,466 and kind of intimidating all at the same time. 65 00:03:10,569 --> 00:03:11,881 - ♪ Do it, bad, bad, bad, bad 66 00:03:11,984 --> 00:03:12,951 ♪ Do it, do it 67 00:03:13,054 --> 00:03:13,917 - Bottom line is, 68 00:03:14,021 --> 00:03:16,023 they're a great fucking band. 69 00:03:16,126 --> 00:03:17,783 And they are incredible live. 70 00:03:17,887 --> 00:03:19,751 ♪ 71 00:03:19,854 --> 00:03:21,442 They have this wonderful chemistry 72 00:03:21,546 --> 00:03:24,307 that is the Lunachicks. 73 00:03:24,411 --> 00:03:25,653 - They were punks, 74 00:03:25,757 --> 00:03:28,622 they were rock chicks, and they were great. 75 00:03:28,725 --> 00:03:30,106 They had attitude. 76 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:35,353 I mean, I was really surprised that they didn't go further. 77 00:03:35,456 --> 00:03:36,733 - It was too much for some people. 78 00:03:36,837 --> 00:03:37,941 - Really. 79 00:03:38,045 --> 00:03:41,255 But, I mean, fuck 'em if they can't take a joke. 80 00:03:41,359 --> 00:03:44,672 - ♪ Signed hairy and blue, ooh, ooh, ooh ♪ 81 00:03:44,776 --> 00:03:46,502 ♪ Stop shaving and get it waxed ♪ 82 00:03:46,605 --> 00:03:49,470 ♪ No one likes a hairy trap 83 00:03:49,574 --> 00:03:52,439 ♪ Oh, hairy trap 84 00:03:52,542 --> 00:03:53,819 - There's one right there. 85 00:03:53,923 --> 00:03:57,444 And one--and there's another one over there. 86 00:03:57,547 --> 00:04:00,964 In the early nineties, we had a song called "Plugg." 87 00:04:02,897 --> 00:04:03,726 So we had this idea 88 00:04:03,829 --> 00:04:07,557 to spontaneously menstruate on stage. 89 00:04:07,661 --> 00:04:11,665 So we packed Ziploc baggies full of fake blood. 90 00:04:11,768 --> 00:04:15,807 I taped my baggie to the underside of my guitar. 91 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:18,568 Theo had hers taped around her thighs, 92 00:04:18,672 --> 00:04:21,261 and we were all gonna pop the bags at the same time 93 00:04:21,364 --> 00:04:22,848 and have blood everywhere. 94 00:04:22,952 --> 00:04:25,057 So I had my guitar, and then the break happened, 95 00:04:25,161 --> 00:04:26,335 and I went boom! 96 00:04:26,438 --> 00:04:27,508 And blood everywhere. 97 00:04:27,612 --> 00:04:29,372 There's blood all down my legs, 98 00:04:29,476 --> 00:04:31,098 and there's blood all over my dress. 99 00:04:31,201 --> 00:04:33,549 So they photoshopped the blood off, 100 00:04:33,652 --> 00:04:36,068 and my legs have no blood on them. 101 00:04:36,172 --> 00:04:37,484 [laughs] 102 00:04:40,935 --> 00:04:43,628 - The Lunachicks really tapped into 103 00:04:43,731 --> 00:04:47,425 every girl's desire to take down the patriarchy, 104 00:04:47,528 --> 00:04:50,359 whether or not it's a conscious thing. 105 00:04:50,462 --> 00:04:53,120 [rock music] 106 00:04:53,223 --> 00:04:54,535 In high school, I came across 107 00:04:54,639 --> 00:04:56,261 "Jerk of All Trades," 108 00:04:56,365 --> 00:04:57,676 and I turned it over, 109 00:04:57,780 --> 00:05:00,714 and I was like, "Oh, my God, they're all girls." 110 00:05:00,817 --> 00:05:03,544 - ♪ Walk in front of a car at the mall ♪ 111 00:05:03,648 --> 00:05:06,306 - I was like, holy shit. 112 00:05:06,409 --> 00:05:08,031 I need to know everything about this band. 113 00:05:08,135 --> 00:05:11,311 - ♪ You want to die, I can see it in your eyes ♪ 114 00:05:11,414 --> 00:05:13,554 - And I brought that CD home and I played it 115 00:05:13,658 --> 00:05:17,282 until every fart and burp and curse, I absorbed it, 116 00:05:17,386 --> 00:05:18,559 and I was just like, 117 00:05:18,663 --> 00:05:19,871 this is what I've been waiting for. 118 00:05:19,974 --> 00:05:22,529 I've been waiting for this band my whole life. 119 00:05:22,632 --> 00:05:24,876 We are working on a book 120 00:05:24,979 --> 00:05:28,086 that's probably gonna be some kind of memoir. 121 00:05:28,189 --> 00:05:29,536 So you're on stage. 122 00:05:29,639 --> 00:05:30,571 You're--you have an audience for the first time... 123 00:05:30,675 --> 00:05:31,607 - Oh, I was petrified. 124 00:05:31,710 --> 00:05:33,091 - There was a lot of looking down. 125 00:05:33,194 --> 00:05:35,749 We just started talking about making the book. 126 00:05:35,852 --> 00:05:37,958 It gave us a reason to see each other more 127 00:05:38,061 --> 00:05:41,617 and start telling the story of our lives together. 128 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,102 - ♪ Pretty ugly, pretty ugly 129 00:05:44,205 --> 00:05:47,277 - We started playing together when we were 17. 130 00:05:47,381 --> 00:05:48,555 all: Lunachicks! 131 00:05:48,658 --> 00:05:51,143 - Gina. I play guitar 132 00:05:51,247 --> 00:05:53,076 - Sindi, guitar. 133 00:05:53,180 --> 00:05:54,906 - Theo. I sing. 134 00:05:55,009 --> 00:05:56,701 - Squid. I play bass. 135 00:05:56,804 --> 00:06:01,153 - ♪ Whoa 136 00:06:01,257 --> 00:06:05,157 ♪ Whaa, whaa 137 00:06:05,261 --> 00:06:07,367 I'm from Brooklyn. 138 00:06:07,470 --> 00:06:08,954 My parents tried to control me 139 00:06:09,058 --> 00:06:12,061 in a way I couldn't be controlled. 140 00:06:12,164 --> 00:06:13,407 When I was very little, 141 00:06:13,511 --> 00:06:15,513 my parents always said "calmly" to me, 142 00:06:15,616 --> 00:06:17,100 like "Calmly, Theo. Calmly, Theo," 143 00:06:17,204 --> 00:06:18,585 to the point where I asked them 144 00:06:18,688 --> 00:06:20,103 if my name was "Calmly." 145 00:06:24,625 --> 00:06:27,076 My parents found the Sikh religion, 146 00:06:27,179 --> 00:06:29,768 and so we spent the next year being Sikhs, 147 00:06:29,872 --> 00:06:31,598 and then exactly a year later, 148 00:06:31,701 --> 00:06:33,496 they're like, "We're not doing this anymore." 149 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,223 We went to Unitarian Church for, like, 5 minutes. 150 00:06:36,326 --> 00:06:37,431 They were like, "Nah." 151 00:06:37,535 --> 00:06:40,089 We went to Quaker meeting. 152 00:06:40,192 --> 00:06:41,401 They were very strict. 153 00:06:41,504 --> 00:06:43,506 And I wasn't allowed to be mad. 154 00:06:43,610 --> 00:06:47,717 I was so angry and nowhere to put it. 155 00:06:48,097 --> 00:06:51,065 - I met Theo the last year of junior high school. 156 00:06:51,169 --> 00:06:52,377 I was a bad kid. 157 00:06:52,481 --> 00:06:53,689 I got in trouble a lot. 158 00:06:53,792 --> 00:06:55,829 I was, like, the mean brunette. 159 00:06:55,932 --> 00:06:58,038 I'm not actually a natural blonde. 160 00:07:00,489 --> 00:07:03,492 - Syd was just full of attitude, 161 00:07:03,595 --> 00:07:05,355 like badass, cool. 162 00:07:05,459 --> 00:07:06,943 Wore, like, lipstick. 163 00:07:07,047 --> 00:07:09,014 And she did not like me. 164 00:07:09,118 --> 00:07:11,603 - Hated her the minute I laid eyes on her. 165 00:07:11,707 --> 00:07:12,880 She was beautiful, 166 00:07:12,984 --> 00:07:15,124 and, like, the boys had crushes on her. 167 00:07:15,227 --> 00:07:17,298 I was totally snubbing the shit out of her 168 00:07:17,402 --> 00:07:18,679 and then did one of those, like, 169 00:07:18,783 --> 00:07:22,752 keep your enemies closer maneuvers. 170 00:07:22,856 --> 00:07:25,410 - We were in a dance class, and I was a dancer. 171 00:07:25,514 --> 00:07:27,308 - We had a dance show, 172 00:07:27,412 --> 00:07:28,517 and you could, like, choreograph 173 00:07:28,620 --> 00:07:30,070 dances in the show, so I was like, 174 00:07:30,173 --> 00:07:32,693 "Heard you can dance." She's like, "Yeah." 175 00:07:32,797 --> 00:07:34,971 "Want to be in my dance?" "Okay." 176 00:07:35,075 --> 00:07:37,111 And then fell, like, in love with her. 177 00:07:37,215 --> 00:07:38,009 Like, instantly. 178 00:07:38,112 --> 00:07:40,183 I was like, "Oh, my God, I'm in." 179 00:07:40,287 --> 00:07:41,978 I'm like, "I'm with the cool kids. 180 00:07:42,082 --> 00:07:43,014 It's happening." 181 00:07:44,187 --> 00:07:45,361 - It's so, like, emotional 182 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:47,501 when you have girlfriends that age. 183 00:07:47,605 --> 00:07:48,882 Before you're having sex, 184 00:07:48,985 --> 00:07:51,056 that's, like, your first real relationship. 185 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,576 It's, like, as important as any lover, 186 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:54,750 you know what I mean? 187 00:07:54,853 --> 00:07:56,441 Like, the amount of drama and tears. 188 00:07:56,545 --> 00:07:57,787 We hung out constantly, 189 00:07:57,891 --> 00:07:59,513 and I dragged her to my house, like, 190 00:07:59,617 --> 00:08:00,859 "Let me show you this, let me show you that." 191 00:08:00,963 --> 00:08:01,826 Like, wouldn't let her leave. 192 00:08:01,929 --> 00:08:04,656 We were, like, best friends. 193 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,072 - Gina, I met through my friend from camp. 194 00:08:07,176 --> 00:08:10,800 - I think we were both 12, and I was such a nerd. 195 00:08:10,904 --> 00:08:12,906 I was such a nerd and a misfit. 196 00:08:13,009 --> 00:08:15,115 [laughs] All I did was draw all day. 197 00:08:15,218 --> 00:08:18,187 My friend was like, "You're going to meet my friend Theo, 198 00:08:18,290 --> 00:08:19,809 "and she's really cool, 199 00:08:19,913 --> 00:08:22,467 "and she looks just like Julie from 'Fame,' 200 00:08:22,571 --> 00:08:24,469 so just try to be cool." 201 00:08:24,573 --> 00:08:25,643 [upbeat music] 202 00:08:25,746 --> 00:08:27,023 Remember the movie "Fame"? 203 00:08:27,127 --> 00:08:28,749 After seeing that movie, yeah, I was like, 204 00:08:28,853 --> 00:08:29,957 "I wanna go to the Fame school." 205 00:08:30,061 --> 00:08:31,580 - This is no Mickey Mouse school. 206 00:08:31,683 --> 00:08:33,582 You're not getting off easy because you're talented. 207 00:08:33,685 --> 00:08:34,824 You'll work twice as hard. 208 00:08:34,928 --> 00:08:36,723 - Everybody wanted to go to that school. 209 00:08:36,826 --> 00:08:40,416 It was, like, all these kids from drastically different 210 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,038 economic neighborhoods in New York. 211 00:08:42,142 --> 00:08:43,246 You know, there's, like, 212 00:08:43,350 --> 00:08:44,316 the rich girl from the Upper East side, 213 00:08:44,420 --> 00:08:45,386 and the poor kid from the Bronx. 214 00:08:45,490 --> 00:08:47,043 You know, they all, like, get into this 215 00:08:47,147 --> 00:08:49,529 really exclusive program at this high school, 216 00:08:49,632 --> 00:08:51,841 which is really exactly how it was. 217 00:08:51,945 --> 00:08:53,429 And I got into the drama department, 218 00:08:53,533 --> 00:08:54,948 so I thought it was really cool 219 00:08:55,051 --> 00:08:56,950 that I got into "Fame" school. 220 00:08:57,053 --> 00:08:58,779 - I always wanted to be an artist. 221 00:08:58,883 --> 00:09:01,368 So I got into the art department, 222 00:09:01,471 --> 00:09:04,095 and freshman year, I found out 223 00:09:04,198 --> 00:09:06,028 that Theo was gonna be in my class. 224 00:09:06,131 --> 00:09:08,617 And that's how we reconnected and became friends. 225 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,930 [upbeat music] 226 00:09:12,034 --> 00:09:14,657 New York in the '70s and '80s 227 00:09:14,761 --> 00:09:17,039 was just a very different place. 228 00:09:17,142 --> 00:09:21,561 A lot of abandoned buildings and wrecked cars. 229 00:09:21,664 --> 00:09:24,287 - You know, at 14, you could get a fake ID. 230 00:09:24,391 --> 00:09:25,599 And I remember, they were like, 231 00:09:25,703 --> 00:09:28,947 "You have to choose one of four occupations." 232 00:09:29,051 --> 00:09:31,501 There was, like, four choices, and I was like, "Secretary." 233 00:09:31,605 --> 00:09:33,814 You know, "Secre--secretary." 234 00:09:33,918 --> 00:09:36,368 The first time I ever hung out with Gina and Theo, 235 00:09:36,472 --> 00:09:38,060 we went to the Roxy, 236 00:09:38,163 --> 00:09:40,821 and we went to see, like, Herbie Hancock or something. 237 00:09:40,925 --> 00:09:43,134 Not punk rock at all. 238 00:09:43,237 --> 00:09:45,930 - It was so fun-- music and going out 239 00:09:46,033 --> 00:09:48,139 and lying to my parents about where I was sleeping 240 00:09:48,242 --> 00:09:50,072 and being out all night and taking the train 241 00:09:50,175 --> 00:09:52,108 and, you know, all these crazy, like, risks. 242 00:09:52,212 --> 00:09:53,282 [rock music] 243 00:09:53,385 --> 00:09:54,870 - And it was shitty-- 244 00:09:54,973 --> 00:09:58,252 really dangerous and shitty and gritty and fun. 245 00:09:58,356 --> 00:10:03,361 We used to drop acid and go to Times Square in the '80s. 246 00:10:03,464 --> 00:10:04,604 Watch the movie "Times Square." 247 00:10:04,707 --> 00:10:06,019 It was like a playground for us. 248 00:10:06,122 --> 00:10:08,849 A dirty, dangerous playground. 249 00:10:08,953 --> 00:10:10,575 ♪ 250 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,991 - One of my first concerts was The Misfits 251 00:10:13,095 --> 00:10:16,546 at the Ukrainian Hall, 1981, 252 00:10:16,650 --> 00:10:19,032 and it was fantastic. 253 00:10:19,135 --> 00:10:21,828 ♪ 254 00:10:21,931 --> 00:10:24,416 And then I started going to the Peppermint Lounge 255 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,108 on 45th Street. 256 00:10:26,211 --> 00:10:31,320 15, 16 years old, and it was like Times Square in 1981. 257 00:10:31,423 --> 00:10:33,011 It was really cool and scary. 258 00:10:33,115 --> 00:10:36,325 And nobody raped me or stabbed me 259 00:10:36,428 --> 00:10:39,431 or anything like that, so that was really great. 260 00:10:39,535 --> 00:10:41,054 These are my girls! 261 00:10:41,157 --> 00:10:42,849 I don't know where they came from, 262 00:10:42,952 --> 00:10:48,164 but there they were, and I just loved them. 263 00:10:48,751 --> 00:10:52,203 - Sindi was the coolest girl in the world. 264 00:10:52,306 --> 00:10:53,722 She's not that much older than me, 265 00:10:53,825 --> 00:10:55,551 but I feel like she raised me. 266 00:10:55,655 --> 00:10:58,899 When you're 15 and your friend has their own apartment, 267 00:10:59,003 --> 00:11:01,350 live with their boyfriend, it's really different. 268 00:11:01,453 --> 00:11:03,214 It's a big five years. 269 00:11:03,317 --> 00:11:06,493 - Sindi was a huge influence in every way-- 270 00:11:06,596 --> 00:11:08,737 style, clothes, music. 271 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,464 She became the most badass big sister to all of us. 272 00:11:12,568 --> 00:11:13,983 [rock music] 273 00:11:14,087 --> 00:11:16,054 - All I wanted to do was, after school, 274 00:11:16,158 --> 00:11:17,711 get down to the East Village. 275 00:11:17,815 --> 00:11:20,852 The East Village was just a cool place. 276 00:11:20,956 --> 00:11:23,821 Every chance I got, I'd be hanging around St Mark's, 277 00:11:23,924 --> 00:11:25,719 going to Seconds Records. 278 00:11:25,823 --> 00:11:27,894 You'd see all the punks hanging out on stoops, 279 00:11:27,997 --> 00:11:29,550 and you'd be really kind of scared of them, 280 00:11:29,654 --> 00:11:30,690 but you wanted to hang out with them, 281 00:11:30,793 --> 00:11:32,243 'cause that's who you wanted to be. 282 00:11:32,346 --> 00:11:35,004 - [indistinct singing] 283 00:11:35,108 --> 00:11:36,661 - There was Lismar Lounge, 284 00:11:36,765 --> 00:11:38,525 the Pyramid on Avenue A, 285 00:11:38,628 --> 00:11:40,147 King Tut's Wah Wah Hut. 286 00:11:40,251 --> 00:11:41,493 CB's, of course. 287 00:11:41,597 --> 00:11:43,806 [rock music] 288 00:11:43,910 --> 00:11:45,532 - There was, like, a sort of '60s 289 00:11:45,635 --> 00:11:47,361 garage-y scene going on. 290 00:11:47,465 --> 00:11:50,157 All these underground bands that were very influential-- 291 00:11:50,261 --> 00:11:52,297 the Swamp Goblyns that then became the Kretins, 292 00:11:52,401 --> 00:11:54,748 and then Da Willys, the Man Eaters. 293 00:11:54,852 --> 00:11:56,716 I was just like, "Oh, my God, I need to do this. 294 00:11:56,819 --> 00:11:58,269 I can do this if they could do it." 295 00:11:58,372 --> 00:11:59,822 ♪ 296 00:11:59,926 --> 00:12:01,410 - We had a band called Freaks, 297 00:12:01,513 --> 00:12:06,587 and we started to see those little Lunachicks, 298 00:12:06,691 --> 00:12:09,142 and they were not old enough to get in, 299 00:12:09,245 --> 00:12:12,145 and they would stand outside when we played. 300 00:12:13,422 --> 00:12:16,045 And we loved that, and we loved them. 301 00:12:16,149 --> 00:12:17,978 And I kept always telling them, 302 00:12:18,082 --> 00:12:20,912 "You know, you should be a band." 303 00:12:21,016 --> 00:12:23,915 - Yes, why shouldn't it work? It's us. 304 00:12:24,019 --> 00:12:25,883 And everything we do is fun and great, 305 00:12:25,986 --> 00:12:28,437 so this can also be fun and great. 306 00:12:28,540 --> 00:12:30,542 And sure enough, it was. 307 00:12:30,646 --> 00:12:31,751 - Yeah, baby. 308 00:12:31,854 --> 00:12:32,682 - Are we gonna do the whole thing? 309 00:12:32,786 --> 00:12:33,787 - Yeah. [guitar playing] 310 00:12:33,891 --> 00:12:35,030 Oh, wait. 311 00:12:35,133 --> 00:12:36,134 ♪ 312 00:12:36,238 --> 00:12:37,964 - ♪ Wheoo, wheeoo - [laughs] 313 00:12:38,067 --> 00:12:39,862 - I like that, "Wheoo, wheeoo." 314 00:12:39,966 --> 00:12:41,243 - We have it all figured out. 315 00:12:41,346 --> 00:12:44,004 Theo's gonna sing. I'm gonna play bass. 316 00:12:44,108 --> 00:12:45,972 Sindi's gonna play guitar, 'cause she has a guitar. 317 00:12:46,075 --> 00:12:47,456 And they're like, "You can play lead guitar!" 318 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,872 And I was like, "I don't know how to play lead guitar." 319 00:12:49,976 --> 00:12:50,942 And they're like, "That's okay. 320 00:12:51,046 --> 00:12:52,012 "We don't know how to play anything either, 321 00:12:52,116 --> 00:12:53,324 so let's just do it." 322 00:12:53,427 --> 00:12:54,359 Ready! 323 00:12:54,463 --> 00:12:55,291 - OK. 324 00:12:55,395 --> 00:12:56,292 [rock music] 325 00:12:56,396 --> 00:12:57,846 ♪ No remorse 326 00:12:57,949 --> 00:12:58,847 - We were awful. 327 00:12:58,950 --> 00:13:01,090 We were so awful. 328 00:13:01,194 --> 00:13:05,577 - ♪ This life of yours is mine to take ♪ 329 00:13:05,681 --> 00:13:09,202 - We were practicing in my bedroom, in my parents' house. 330 00:13:09,305 --> 00:13:11,825 Theo's heavy metal boyfriend, Mike, 331 00:13:11,929 --> 00:13:13,516 ended up being our first drummer 332 00:13:13,620 --> 00:13:17,141 and played our first show, I think, when we were 18. 333 00:13:17,244 --> 00:13:19,971 - ♪ I touch your corpse 334 00:13:20,075 --> 00:13:25,770 ♪ One more time 335 00:13:25,874 --> 00:13:27,289 ♪ 336 00:13:27,392 --> 00:13:29,222 - I think it was our second show, 337 00:13:29,325 --> 00:13:34,917 and Kim and Thurston from Sonic Youth were there. 338 00:13:35,021 --> 00:13:38,369 - We wanted to be this mishmash of MC5 339 00:13:38,472 --> 00:13:41,821 and Black Sabbath and The Clash and Iggy-- 340 00:13:41,924 --> 00:13:44,824 you know, all our favorite bands. 341 00:13:44,927 --> 00:13:46,826 But we did not sound like that. 342 00:13:46,929 --> 00:13:48,724 So Thurston Moore was there, 343 00:13:48,828 --> 00:13:51,313 and he thought we were a noise band. 344 00:13:51,416 --> 00:13:52,866 [laughs] 345 00:13:52,970 --> 00:13:55,593 He called up Blast First, 346 00:13:55,696 --> 00:13:57,181 and that became our first label, 347 00:13:57,284 --> 00:13:59,528 with the idea that Thurston and Kim Gordon 348 00:13:59,631 --> 00:14:02,634 would be producing our album. 349 00:14:02,738 --> 00:14:04,153 I write most of the lyrics, 350 00:14:04,257 --> 00:14:06,569 and people come in with different songs, 351 00:14:06,673 --> 00:14:08,917 and we sort of meld together 352 00:14:09,020 --> 00:14:14,301 to make this sort of mind-warping combobulation 353 00:14:14,405 --> 00:14:17,235 of sound and noise and stuff like that. 354 00:14:17,339 --> 00:14:20,307 - Our songs are about people we love 355 00:14:20,411 --> 00:14:24,518 and people we hate and TV shows we love and-- 356 00:14:24,622 --> 00:14:26,555 and killing people. 357 00:14:26,658 --> 00:14:27,418 - We just write songs about it. 358 00:14:27,521 --> 00:14:28,798 We don't really do any of that stuff. 359 00:14:28,902 --> 00:14:30,041 [rock music] 360 00:14:30,145 --> 00:14:31,767 - The things that we did after school-- 361 00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:34,114 the TV watching and the pot smoking 362 00:14:34,218 --> 00:14:35,598 and then the binge-eating-- 363 00:14:35,702 --> 00:14:39,637 these all became fodder for Lunachicks songs. 364 00:14:39,740 --> 00:14:40,810 - Hey, hey, hey! 365 00:14:40,914 --> 00:14:42,226 - So we wrote a song 366 00:14:42,329 --> 00:14:44,297 about Mabel King from "What's Happening!!" 367 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,368 - ♪ Mabel King, you are the queen ♪ 368 00:14:46,471 --> 00:14:49,026 - We wrote a song about Jan Brady of the Brady Bunch. 369 00:14:49,129 --> 00:14:50,372 - ♪ Well, I know I cracked 370 00:14:50,475 --> 00:14:52,581 ♪ The family picture with my bike ♪ 371 00:14:52,684 --> 00:14:53,789 - Jan, look out! 372 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:57,137 - ♪ I wasn't wearing my glasses ♪ 373 00:14:57,241 --> 00:14:58,621 - On top of watching TV, 374 00:14:58,725 --> 00:15:00,002 we were obsessed with B movies, 375 00:15:00,106 --> 00:15:02,418 and we were obsessed with John Waters. 376 00:15:02,522 --> 00:15:03,281 Totally obsessed. 377 00:15:03,385 --> 00:15:06,250 - Welcome to Mortville, ladies. 378 00:15:06,353 --> 00:15:08,183 - And there's a scene in "Desperate Living" 379 00:15:08,286 --> 00:15:10,702 where the babysitter is tripping... 380 00:15:10,806 --> 00:15:13,153 - What have you done with my baby? 381 00:15:13,257 --> 00:15:15,397 - I don't know, I'm trippin'! - Trippin'? 382 00:15:15,500 --> 00:15:17,778 - And she puts the kid in the refrigerator. 383 00:15:17,882 --> 00:15:19,401 - [crying] 384 00:15:19,504 --> 00:15:21,127 - Are we gonna reveal what the name of our album is? 385 00:15:21,230 --> 00:15:22,473 - We might as well. 386 00:15:22,576 --> 00:15:26,718 - "Babysitters On Acid"! - "Babysitters On Acid." 387 00:15:26,822 --> 00:15:29,687 [rock music] 388 00:15:29,790 --> 00:15:31,413 ♪ 389 00:15:31,516 --> 00:15:33,553 - ♪ Hello, dear, there's some popcorn in here ♪ 390 00:15:33,656 --> 00:15:36,452 ♪ There's soda and ice cream, but don't touch the beer ♪ 391 00:15:36,556 --> 00:15:37,798 Getting on that mic and feeling 392 00:15:37,902 --> 00:15:40,215 the loudness and the power, 393 00:15:40,318 --> 00:15:45,254 I remember feeling finally free. 394 00:15:45,358 --> 00:15:47,705 ♪ Yes, ma'am, and I'll see you later ♪ 395 00:15:47,808 --> 00:15:51,260 ♪ Don't worry, I'll be on my best behavior ♪ 396 00:15:51,364 --> 00:15:53,883 ♪ 397 00:15:53,987 --> 00:15:55,333 - You're such a visual band. 398 00:15:55,437 --> 00:15:56,817 People talk about the Lunachicks like, 399 00:15:56,921 --> 00:15:59,027 "Oh, yeah, they dressed up." - Yeah. 400 00:15:59,130 --> 00:16:01,132 Combing thrift stores was, like, a big... 401 00:16:01,236 --> 00:16:02,168 - It was, like, a big-- - Pastime of ours. 402 00:16:02,271 --> 00:16:03,341 That's what we would do. 403 00:16:03,445 --> 00:16:04,929 - I really would love them 404 00:16:05,033 --> 00:16:06,137 to get back together. 405 00:16:06,241 --> 00:16:07,345 - Shitting in the Salvation Army always. 406 00:16:07,449 --> 00:16:09,002 - Shitting in fuckin' thrift stores 407 00:16:09,106 --> 00:16:10,141 all over the country--so gross. [laughter] 408 00:16:10,245 --> 00:16:11,936 - I think there would be a tremendous interest 409 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,145 from all over the world. 410 00:16:14,249 --> 00:16:17,286 I'm saying this with all the respect in the world. 411 00:16:17,390 --> 00:16:18,701 You're in it. You don't... 412 00:16:19,771 --> 00:16:21,325 You have a different perspective. 413 00:16:21,428 --> 00:16:24,017 In my mind, if you went on tour, 414 00:16:24,121 --> 00:16:25,985 you would fucking kill it. 415 00:16:26,088 --> 00:16:27,400 - [laughs] 416 00:16:27,503 --> 00:16:28,918 - I'm telling you. 417 00:16:29,022 --> 00:16:31,093 [laughter] 418 00:16:31,197 --> 00:16:33,371 - [clears throat] - [clears throat] 419 00:16:33,475 --> 00:16:35,201 Anyhoo. 420 00:16:39,412 --> 00:16:41,103 - My identity was really wrapped up in the band 421 00:16:41,207 --> 00:16:42,863 for a long time. 422 00:16:42,967 --> 00:16:45,452 I wouldn't say I turned my back on that identity, 423 00:16:45,556 --> 00:16:49,801 but I always had a fear of holding onto the past. 424 00:16:49,905 --> 00:16:51,320 You hungry for pizza? 425 00:16:51,424 --> 00:16:53,253 OK, whoever wants pizza, come down! 426 00:16:53,357 --> 00:16:54,599 I also had two kids 427 00:16:54,703 --> 00:16:57,706 and opened two restaurants in 12 1/2 years. 428 00:16:57,809 --> 00:17:00,640 People are like, "Oh, that poor older woman 429 00:17:00,743 --> 00:17:04,264 "with tattoos that has to bus tables for a living, 430 00:17:04,368 --> 00:17:05,541 we feel really bad for her." 431 00:17:05,645 --> 00:17:07,716 - [laughs] 432 00:17:07,819 --> 00:17:09,338 I feel like the older I get, 433 00:17:09,442 --> 00:17:13,929 the clearer the sense of my own mortality 434 00:17:14,033 --> 00:17:15,448 and feeling time slipping away, 435 00:17:15,551 --> 00:17:18,865 and wanting to make as much art and music 436 00:17:18,968 --> 00:17:21,109 as possible before I die. 437 00:17:21,212 --> 00:17:22,558 [rock music] 438 00:17:22,662 --> 00:17:26,597 I am releasing a new single every month, 439 00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:27,736 and I'm making videos. 440 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:30,256 ♪ 441 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:31,533 OK. 442 00:17:31,636 --> 00:17:32,982 ♪ 443 00:17:33,086 --> 00:17:34,639 Whoa! [laughs] 444 00:17:34,743 --> 00:17:37,573 - I would love to see this on top of what you have on. 445 00:17:37,677 --> 00:17:40,335 They are normally 21, and today they're 15. 446 00:17:40,438 --> 00:17:42,406 I have my own lip gloss company. 447 00:17:42,509 --> 00:17:45,547 The glosses are named after rock 'n' roll icons. 448 00:17:45,650 --> 00:17:49,309 This is "Highway Star," which is a Deep Purple song. 449 00:17:49,413 --> 00:17:52,140 Ha-ha-ha. Get it? [laughs] 450 00:17:52,243 --> 00:17:53,624 - What band were you in? - We were in Lunachicks. 451 00:17:53,727 --> 00:17:54,832 I was in Lunachicks. - Oh, my God! 452 00:17:54,935 --> 00:17:56,454 - The singer. - I love Lunachicks! 453 00:17:56,558 --> 00:17:57,317 - [laughs] 454 00:17:57,421 --> 00:17:58,594 - So are you guys reuniting? 455 00:17:58,698 --> 00:18:00,217 - No. 456 00:18:06,223 --> 00:18:08,639 - People always ask us if we'll play again, 457 00:18:08,742 --> 00:18:11,469 so every once in a while, it comes up, 458 00:18:11,573 --> 00:18:15,094 but we haven't played together in a very long time. 459 00:18:15,197 --> 00:18:17,855 [cheering] 460 00:18:17,958 --> 00:18:21,410 - I had all the girls up to my country house, 461 00:18:21,514 --> 00:18:23,205 and then as we were all sitting there, 462 00:18:23,309 --> 00:18:25,380 I did bring it up, like, 463 00:18:25,483 --> 00:18:28,866 "We really need to do one more show." 464 00:18:33,457 --> 00:18:36,080 And they were all like, "What?" 465 00:18:36,184 --> 00:18:37,944 - We could do, like, seven or eight shows. 466 00:18:38,047 --> 00:18:39,290 - Seven or eight? 467 00:18:39,394 --> 00:18:41,258 - Uh-oh! Wheels are turning. Wheels are turning. 468 00:18:41,361 --> 00:18:42,776 - Um... - Oh! 469 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,640 - Maybe we could get Depends to sponsor us. 470 00:18:44,744 --> 00:18:45,814 [laughter] 471 00:18:45,917 --> 00:18:47,126 - I still record music, 472 00:18:47,229 --> 00:18:48,713 I write songs, 473 00:18:48,817 --> 00:18:52,476 but I haven't been in front of an audience in years. 474 00:18:52,579 --> 00:18:54,063 - I feel like I'm gonna pass out. 475 00:18:54,167 --> 00:18:55,789 [laughter] 476 00:18:55,893 --> 00:18:58,309 - Do I want to, you know, hang out with my girls again? 477 00:18:58,413 --> 00:19:00,173 Yeah, that would be great. 478 00:19:00,277 --> 00:19:02,037 Um, being on stage? 479 00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:03,694 I--it would be fun. 480 00:19:05,523 --> 00:19:08,940 But there's a lot of history there. 481 00:19:09,044 --> 00:19:10,735 - We normally play in New York at... 482 00:19:10,839 --> 00:19:13,531 - CBGB's, Pyramid. - The Ritz when we can. 483 00:19:13,635 --> 00:19:14,981 - The Ritz when we can. We used to-- 484 00:19:15,084 --> 00:19:16,707 - Sonic Youth was producing us 485 00:19:16,810 --> 00:19:19,054 for Blast First Records, 486 00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:21,815 which was their English record label. 487 00:19:21,919 --> 00:19:22,816 But it wasn't going well. 488 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:23,921 - Is it on? 489 00:19:24,024 --> 00:19:25,025 It didn't really work out 490 00:19:25,129 --> 00:19:26,958 because of the artistic differences, 491 00:19:27,062 --> 00:19:28,891 which is unfortunate. 492 00:19:28,995 --> 00:19:30,790 ♪ Distract you, where to 493 00:19:30,893 --> 00:19:33,655 - We sort of had a souring in the studio 494 00:19:33,758 --> 00:19:37,245 because the Lunachicks were way too obnoxious 495 00:19:37,348 --> 00:19:39,626 to work with at that point. 496 00:19:39,730 --> 00:19:40,938 ♪ 497 00:19:41,041 --> 00:19:43,596 - I think that Kim and Thurston were attracted 498 00:19:43,699 --> 00:19:47,600 by the fact that we were very young and we were amateurs. 499 00:19:47,703 --> 00:19:49,326 But we didn't want to be amateurs. 500 00:19:49,429 --> 00:19:52,018 We really wanted to be rock stars. 501 00:19:52,121 --> 00:19:56,471 So they wanted to bring out the badly played chords 502 00:19:56,574 --> 00:19:59,439 or the broken distortion pedal sound, 503 00:19:59,543 --> 00:20:02,891 and we were really kind of embarrassed by that stuff. 504 00:20:02,994 --> 00:20:05,997 I mean, my hero was AC/DC Angus Young 505 00:20:06,101 --> 00:20:07,654 and Tony Iommi. 506 00:20:07,758 --> 00:20:11,417 We really wanted to be, like, heavy rock gods. 507 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,660 - I mean, we wanted to sound like KISS. 508 00:20:13,764 --> 00:20:16,215 And that was not her vision for us. 509 00:20:16,318 --> 00:20:20,080 So we were snotty, and Kim stormed out, 510 00:20:20,184 --> 00:20:22,117 but the label already had invested 511 00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:23,636 a couple bucks into the recording. 512 00:20:23,739 --> 00:20:26,017 They thought it was worth something. 513 00:20:26,121 --> 00:20:27,260 So we stayed with the label, 514 00:20:27,364 --> 00:20:29,987 and we scrambled to get a girl drummer. 515 00:20:30,090 --> 00:20:32,231 We found out about Becky Wreck, 516 00:20:32,334 --> 00:20:34,681 this crazy drummer girl from Philly. 517 00:20:34,785 --> 00:20:37,132 She rolled into town on this motorcycle, 518 00:20:37,236 --> 00:20:40,100 and she was super queer and super cute 519 00:20:40,204 --> 00:20:42,655 and, like, a great drummer. 520 00:20:42,758 --> 00:20:45,244 She was a strong character. 521 00:20:45,347 --> 00:20:47,280 So we thought, she'll be perfect. 522 00:20:47,384 --> 00:20:49,662 - ♪ Popping wheelies on her motorbike ♪ 523 00:20:49,765 --> 00:20:52,423 ♪ Straight girls wish they were dykes ♪ 524 00:20:52,527 --> 00:20:55,081 - I wrote the lyrics for the L7 song 525 00:20:55,184 --> 00:20:56,255 "Fast and Frightening." 526 00:20:56,358 --> 00:20:58,498 "Popping wheelies on her motorbike, 527 00:20:58,602 --> 00:21:00,776 straight girls wish they were dykes," 528 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,469 is specifically about Becky Wreck. 529 00:21:03,572 --> 00:21:06,299 - ♪ She's frightening 530 00:21:06,403 --> 00:21:08,508 - This is how we found out about L7, 531 00:21:08,612 --> 00:21:10,924 because Becky had also 532 00:21:11,028 --> 00:21:12,443 been contacted by L7, who was looking for a drummer. 533 00:21:12,547 --> 00:21:14,514 So we were both making her offers 534 00:21:14,618 --> 00:21:16,585 and fighting over her, trying to get her. 535 00:21:16,689 --> 00:21:20,417 - When we met Becky, we were blown away by her. 536 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,798 And we were like, "We're getting Becky. 537 00:21:22,902 --> 00:21:24,731 "How do we get her? 538 00:21:24,835 --> 00:21:27,320 How do we steal her and get her to move to LA?" 539 00:21:27,424 --> 00:21:28,528 And then she said, 540 00:21:28,632 --> 00:21:30,047 "No, I'm dedicated to the Lunachicks. 541 00:21:30,150 --> 00:21:31,290 I'm gonna stay out here." 542 00:21:31,393 --> 00:21:33,395 And we were brokenhearted. 543 00:21:35,328 --> 00:21:37,365 - The Lunachicks were funny, 544 00:21:37,468 --> 00:21:40,057 super smart hot chicks-- 545 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,404 young, crazy to be around. 546 00:21:42,508 --> 00:21:43,923 So much fun to be around. 547 00:21:44,026 --> 00:21:46,270 I felt like I have a chance to be a part of something 548 00:21:46,374 --> 00:21:48,686 that nobody knows about yet. 549 00:21:48,790 --> 00:21:50,309 I think I knew I could put them on the map. 550 00:21:50,412 --> 00:21:51,862 I think I really knew that. 551 00:21:51,965 --> 00:21:54,658 At an early age, I knew women do not 552 00:21:54,761 --> 00:21:55,866 get treated the same as men. 553 00:21:55,969 --> 00:21:57,177 Like, something's wrong. 554 00:21:57,281 --> 00:21:58,524 In third grade, when they ask us 555 00:21:58,627 --> 00:22:00,836 if you want to play an instrument at school, 556 00:22:00,940 --> 00:22:03,183 I said, I want to play drums, and everybody, 557 00:22:03,287 --> 00:22:04,392 "Why do you-- girls don't do that! 558 00:22:04,495 --> 00:22:05,289 Why do you want to do that?" 559 00:22:05,393 --> 00:22:06,601 So I had to go home. 560 00:22:06,704 --> 00:22:08,603 I had to have my mom sign a form, which was-- 561 00:22:08,706 --> 00:22:10,363 she made me put flute first. 562 00:22:10,467 --> 00:22:11,882 My teenage years-- 563 00:22:11,985 --> 00:22:13,608 already feeling like, I'm a woman, 564 00:22:13,711 --> 00:22:15,057 I'm gonna get treated less than-- 565 00:22:15,161 --> 00:22:16,680 I realize, oh, my God, I'm gay. 566 00:22:16,783 --> 00:22:19,476 And that's--that's really bad. 567 00:22:19,579 --> 00:22:21,892 By then, I was really angry. 568 00:22:21,995 --> 00:22:22,893 I totally got into punk 569 00:22:22,996 --> 00:22:24,032 and rebelled against everything else. 570 00:22:24,135 --> 00:22:25,205 I just wanted to play as fast 571 00:22:25,309 --> 00:22:27,898 as the Dead Kennedys or Bad Brains. 572 00:22:28,001 --> 00:22:29,348 Nobody was even gonna take me serious 573 00:22:29,451 --> 00:22:31,004 if I was just halfway decent. 574 00:22:31,108 --> 00:22:34,525 [rock music] 575 00:22:34,629 --> 00:22:36,700 Whatever it is that Sonic Youth saw, 576 00:22:36,803 --> 00:22:39,634 my playing was so hard and in your face, 577 00:22:39,737 --> 00:22:42,188 it was the glue that was gonna hold it 578 00:22:42,291 --> 00:22:43,569 and make it like, holy shit, 579 00:22:43,672 --> 00:22:45,156 there's something going on. 580 00:22:45,260 --> 00:22:47,607 Like, it's not just, like, in the beginning stages anymore. 581 00:22:47,711 --> 00:22:49,368 Like, this is something. 582 00:22:49,471 --> 00:22:50,921 - [grunts] 583 00:22:51,024 --> 00:22:54,959 ♪ Got a pus pocket waiting for you ♪ 584 00:22:55,063 --> 00:22:59,412 ♪ Got a flesh bubble from huffing too much glue ♪ 585 00:22:59,516 --> 00:23:02,726 ♪ I got a precious pimple loaded with some goo ♪ 586 00:23:02,829 --> 00:23:06,005 - Early on, when Becky was trying to figure out 587 00:23:06,108 --> 00:23:08,525 whether she even wanted to be in our band, 588 00:23:08,628 --> 00:23:11,113 her and Syd started a relationship. 589 00:23:11,217 --> 00:23:14,047 That might have been why Becky ended up staying with us 590 00:23:14,151 --> 00:23:15,497 and not joining L7. 591 00:23:15,601 --> 00:23:17,050 That's my guess. 592 00:23:17,154 --> 00:23:18,604 It's always the girl. 593 00:23:18,707 --> 00:23:20,122 [laughs] 594 00:23:20,226 --> 00:23:23,091 - So me and Becky were a couple for a while, 595 00:23:23,194 --> 00:23:26,025 which pissed everybody off. 596 00:23:26,128 --> 00:23:28,165 I mean, who the hell wants to be in a band with a couple? 597 00:23:28,268 --> 00:23:29,477 Nobody. 598 00:23:30,339 --> 00:23:32,341 We did this four-song EP. 599 00:23:32,445 --> 00:23:33,722 We're 18. 600 00:23:33,826 --> 00:23:36,311 We get booked on this tour of the UK 601 00:23:36,415 --> 00:23:37,692 with Dinosaur Jr. 602 00:23:37,795 --> 00:23:40,004 We pack our bags and get on a plane, 603 00:23:40,108 --> 00:23:42,248 and it was on. 604 00:23:42,351 --> 00:23:44,250 - ♪ Lunachicks on the run 605 00:23:44,353 --> 00:23:46,217 ♪ Lunachicks are having fun 606 00:23:46,321 --> 00:23:47,874 ♪ Lunachicks make lots of noise ♪ 607 00:23:47,978 --> 00:23:50,290 ♪ To prove rock 'n' roll's not just for boys ♪ 608 00:23:50,394 --> 00:23:51,775 ♪ On the road and on the rag 609 00:23:51,878 --> 00:23:53,777 ♪ We fucking rule so we gotta brag ♪ 610 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,572 ♪ Gonna take over the world someday ♪ 611 00:23:55,675 --> 00:23:58,885 ♪ Stay off our path or get out of the way ♪ 612 00:23:58,989 --> 00:24:01,612 - Our first tour was when we learned 613 00:24:01,716 --> 00:24:04,028 to be together-- in hotel rooms, 614 00:24:04,132 --> 00:24:06,790 in people's houses, in the van. 615 00:24:06,893 --> 00:24:09,102 So many hours in the van. 616 00:24:09,206 --> 00:24:11,484 I remember thinking, 617 00:24:11,588 --> 00:24:12,796 this is what it is? 618 00:24:12,899 --> 00:24:14,798 I mean, this is how it's gonna be? 619 00:24:14,901 --> 00:24:16,006 This is it? 620 00:24:16,109 --> 00:24:17,559 - ♪ This is serious 621 00:24:17,663 --> 00:24:19,354 - Peeing in the parking lot. 622 00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:21,252 Peeing everywhere. 623 00:24:21,356 --> 00:24:25,360 Theo was unarguably the master of peeing in a cup. 624 00:24:25,464 --> 00:24:26,603 - Periods. 625 00:24:26,706 --> 00:24:28,708 We would all get on the same schedule. 626 00:24:28,812 --> 00:24:30,538 Hormones. Not cute. 627 00:24:30,641 --> 00:24:32,298 ♪ Step off 628 00:24:32,401 --> 00:24:33,817 - Of course, tons of snacks. 629 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,820 - We were teenagers, and we would get somewhere 630 00:24:36,923 --> 00:24:39,443 and immediately want to go to wherever there was candy 631 00:24:39,547 --> 00:24:41,480 and try whatever we could. 632 00:24:41,583 --> 00:24:43,205 It was like Willy Wonka going in and finding 633 00:24:43,309 --> 00:24:44,931 these candies you had never seen before 634 00:24:45,035 --> 00:24:48,176 that were so beautiful and, like, pink and gummies. 635 00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:50,419 And it was incredible. 636 00:24:50,523 --> 00:24:52,836 ♪ 637 00:24:52,939 --> 00:24:55,424 - We had to stop sometimes at two or three borders 638 00:24:55,528 --> 00:24:58,220 in a single day, and there was no 639 00:24:58,324 --> 00:25:00,360 being waved through borders for the Lunachicks. 640 00:25:00,464 --> 00:25:03,432 No border said, "You guys are all right. 641 00:25:03,536 --> 00:25:05,124 Keep driving." 642 00:25:05,227 --> 00:25:07,402 We're driving around with a rubber chicken 643 00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:11,820 and giant flies and big plastic bones. 644 00:25:11,924 --> 00:25:14,789 And we were searched regularly. 645 00:25:14,892 --> 00:25:17,516 Sometimes dogs, sometimes no dogs, 646 00:25:17,619 --> 00:25:20,449 although we did also have border guards 647 00:25:20,553 --> 00:25:23,452 that then we put on the guest list. 648 00:25:23,556 --> 00:25:25,903 Early on, it was all fun. 649 00:25:26,007 --> 00:25:28,734 We were the best of friends. 650 00:25:28,837 --> 00:25:30,805 - Right, uh, after that little historical note, 651 00:25:30,908 --> 00:25:32,185 to the Lunachicks and first from them 652 00:25:32,289 --> 00:25:35,706 in session tonight, "Binge and Purge." 653 00:25:35,810 --> 00:25:38,467 - We were on Blast First for only one album. 654 00:25:38,571 --> 00:25:41,781 We recorded "Binge and Purge" on an American label. 655 00:25:41,885 --> 00:25:45,992 - ♪ Binge and purge 656 00:25:46,096 --> 00:25:48,374 - We went on our first American tour 657 00:25:48,477 --> 00:25:50,134 opening up for the Dictators. 658 00:25:50,238 --> 00:25:52,205 It was called the Chicks 'n' Dicks tour. 659 00:25:52,309 --> 00:25:55,346 - Dictators have passed the punk rock baton 660 00:25:55,450 --> 00:25:56,727 to The Lunachicks. 661 00:25:56,831 --> 00:25:58,246 - Have you known each other for a while or what? 662 00:25:58,349 --> 00:25:59,385 - Some of us did. 663 00:25:59,488 --> 00:26:01,421 - From hangin' around downtown. 664 00:26:01,525 --> 00:26:03,216 And, uh, that's how we met. 665 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,217 In the street. 666 00:26:04,321 --> 00:26:05,840 [overlapping chatter, shouts] 667 00:26:05,943 --> 00:26:07,600 - We want to know about the Lunachicks. 668 00:26:07,704 --> 00:26:10,016 - We had a name for ourselves in England, 669 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:14,400 but in America, we were a very underground band. 670 00:26:14,503 --> 00:26:16,402 We were playing small venues. 671 00:26:16,505 --> 00:26:17,748 This was punk rock. 672 00:26:17,852 --> 00:26:19,370 This was total punk rock. 673 00:26:19,474 --> 00:26:22,408 [rock music] 674 00:26:22,511 --> 00:26:26,446 ♪ 675 00:26:26,550 --> 00:26:28,448 - ♪ Cuttin' in the bathroom, waiting for that bell ♪ 676 00:26:28,552 --> 00:26:30,243 ♪ They say its high school, but I think its hell ♪ 677 00:26:30,347 --> 00:26:31,486 ♪ Puffin' a joint 678 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:33,971 - I'm Jewish, but I grew up in New York, 679 00:26:34,075 --> 00:26:35,870 and I thought, like, everybody was Jewish. 680 00:26:35,973 --> 00:26:38,286 And then we started touring in the United States, 681 00:26:38,389 --> 00:26:41,565 and they're like, "Wow, it's a real live Jew!" 682 00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:43,084 So the obvious thing to do would just be 683 00:26:43,187 --> 00:26:46,087 to write Jew on your face as big as you could, 684 00:26:46,190 --> 00:26:48,434 especially if you were playing with Social Distortion 685 00:26:48,537 --> 00:26:49,608 and there was gonna be, like, 686 00:26:49,711 --> 00:26:52,783 a thousand racist skinheads there. 687 00:26:52,887 --> 00:26:54,716 - Back then, guys would just take over 688 00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:56,235 and slam into everybody, 689 00:26:56,338 --> 00:26:58,996 and the girls would get stomped or pushed around, 690 00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:02,655 grabbed, groped, molested by the audience. 691 00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:04,519 That's not OK-- you can't fuckin do that, 692 00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:06,072 especially not at one of our shows. 693 00:27:06,176 --> 00:27:07,798 ♪ 694 00:27:07,902 --> 00:27:11,215 - Girls and young women could be at the front, 695 00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:14,943 be in the center, express themselves, dance, 696 00:27:15,047 --> 00:27:17,325 and know that we were looking out for them. 697 00:27:17,428 --> 00:27:19,948 Theo would stop the show 698 00:27:20,052 --> 00:27:21,570 if she saw something out of line. 699 00:27:21,674 --> 00:27:23,607 Those were our girls. 700 00:27:23,711 --> 00:27:25,298 - Stop, stop, stop, stop! 701 00:27:25,402 --> 00:27:27,162 Stop! Stop! 702 00:27:27,266 --> 00:27:29,544 What the fuck are you doing, asshole? 703 00:27:29,648 --> 00:27:31,719 [crowd shouting] 704 00:27:31,822 --> 00:27:34,031 Just cut it out. 705 00:27:34,135 --> 00:27:37,276 [crowd shouting] 706 00:27:37,379 --> 00:27:41,452 You are obviously bothering these women a lot, okay? 707 00:27:41,556 --> 00:27:43,178 [cheers and applause] 708 00:27:43,282 --> 00:27:46,285 [rock music] 709 00:27:46,388 --> 00:27:47,976 ♪ 710 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,289 - Everything was always centered around Becky. 711 00:27:50,392 --> 00:27:52,394 Just picture, like, the Tasmanian devil 712 00:27:52,498 --> 00:27:54,396 with a whirlwind around her. 713 00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:55,812 [upbeat music] 714 00:27:55,915 --> 00:27:57,503 - She did her whole Howard Stern thing. 715 00:27:57,606 --> 00:27:59,091 - Come on out, Becky. 716 00:27:59,194 --> 00:28:00,851 - Becky Wreck! - Becky Wreck here. She is-- 717 00:28:00,955 --> 00:28:03,129 - Howard Stern had a cable show. 718 00:28:03,233 --> 00:28:05,373 He was, like, probably the number one 719 00:28:05,476 --> 00:28:07,099 shock jock in New York. 720 00:28:07,202 --> 00:28:10,689 And I went on a lot because--whatever. 721 00:28:10,792 --> 00:28:11,828 [chuckles] 722 00:28:11,931 --> 00:28:14,589 I was willing to kiss girls on TV. 723 00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:15,797 - All the women go wild for you. 724 00:28:15,901 --> 00:28:18,248 Isn't that true? - Yeah. 725 00:28:18,351 --> 00:28:20,629 - All this notoriety happened after that. 726 00:28:20,733 --> 00:28:21,596 So we'd be at the airport-- it'd be like, 727 00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,874 "Oh, Howard Stern!" 728 00:28:23,978 --> 00:28:26,152 - A lot of the fighting and the drama 729 00:28:26,256 --> 00:28:29,777 had to do with the fact that we were a couple. 730 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,710 - Syd was my best friend. 731 00:28:31,813 --> 00:28:33,988 We did everything together. 732 00:28:34,091 --> 00:28:36,956 I was the voice of reason. 733 00:28:37,060 --> 00:28:40,373 You know, the older and wiser. 734 00:28:40,477 --> 00:28:42,065 And then along came Becky, 735 00:28:42,168 --> 00:28:45,654 and she snatches my bestie 736 00:28:45,758 --> 00:28:48,934 and turns her into, like, somebody else. 737 00:28:49,037 --> 00:28:50,970 So we were a little bit at odds. 738 00:28:51,074 --> 00:28:51,937 Not a little bit at odds. 739 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,664 We were--we had some issues. 740 00:28:55,768 --> 00:28:57,045 - I think, by far, 741 00:28:57,149 --> 00:28:59,668 Sindi was, like, the toughest Lunachick. 742 00:28:59,772 --> 00:29:01,740 Maybe she felt like I was competition. 743 00:29:01,843 --> 00:29:03,776 But I just felt like, fuck, she's badass. 744 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,813 Like, yeah, we're on the same team. 745 00:29:05,916 --> 00:29:07,711 [rock music] 746 00:29:07,815 --> 00:29:09,402 - The feelings across the board 747 00:29:09,506 --> 00:29:11,750 were always intense. 748 00:29:11,853 --> 00:29:14,131 We were playing this show in England. 749 00:29:14,235 --> 00:29:16,099 There was, like, a huge mosh pit. 750 00:29:16,202 --> 00:29:19,585 Sindi dumps her guitar and dives into the audience. 751 00:29:19,688 --> 00:29:22,484 - I dove into the crowd. 752 00:29:22,588 --> 00:29:24,832 It took about two seconds, 753 00:29:24,935 --> 00:29:27,696 and I was, like, fucking naked. 754 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,769 The clothes were gone. 755 00:29:30,872 --> 00:29:32,598 - I saw her shirt come ripped up like this 756 00:29:32,701 --> 00:29:35,325 and hands on her, and I freaked out, 757 00:29:35,428 --> 00:29:37,189 and I stopped playing, and I ran over, 758 00:29:37,292 --> 00:29:39,501 and we're trying to get security 759 00:29:39,605 --> 00:29:42,608 to get her back to the stage and get her safe, 760 00:29:42,711 --> 00:29:43,816 'cause I saw the look on her face. 761 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,887 She was horrified. 762 00:29:45,991 --> 00:29:48,994 But I think she felt like she had to play it off. 763 00:29:49,097 --> 00:29:53,308 And her being tough about it confused me. 764 00:29:53,412 --> 00:29:55,345 - Becky got furious. 765 00:29:55,448 --> 00:29:57,623 She got furious at me. 766 00:29:57,726 --> 00:30:02,524 I understand that she maybe felt violated herself somehow. 767 00:30:02,628 --> 00:30:05,734 But it was really not cool. 768 00:30:05,838 --> 00:30:08,358 - The last thing she needed was someone to yell at her. 769 00:30:08,461 --> 00:30:10,222 But I was only coming from, like, 770 00:30:10,325 --> 00:30:12,017 "You did something where we can't protect you. 771 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,535 Don't ever do that," you know. 772 00:30:13,639 --> 00:30:15,468 Like, that's kind of how I felt. 773 00:30:16,815 --> 00:30:20,370 You know, that was really fucked up that that happened. 774 00:30:22,682 --> 00:30:23,891 I can--I--I-- 775 00:30:23,994 --> 00:30:26,272 you know, I can still see it. 776 00:30:26,376 --> 00:30:28,447 And it was, like-- it was really fucked up. 777 00:30:28,550 --> 00:30:30,829 [sniffles] 778 00:30:30,932 --> 00:30:33,141 You still wanna bother people, meet us outside. 779 00:30:33,245 --> 00:30:35,247 Me and every single fucking girl in this place, 780 00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:37,766 and we'll fuckin stomp your ass off. 781 00:30:37,870 --> 00:30:40,735 [cheers and applause] 782 00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:43,738 [rock music] 783 00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:44,877 ♪ 784 00:30:44,981 --> 00:30:48,156 [screaming] 785 00:30:48,260 --> 00:30:53,541 ♪ 786 00:30:53,644 --> 00:30:55,646 ♪ Your crotch is burning 787 00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:58,028 ♪ Well, ain't that a shame 788 00:30:58,132 --> 00:31:03,033 ♪ Too bad that I'm not the one to blame ♪ 789 00:31:03,137 --> 00:31:05,104 ♪ Take this 790 00:31:05,208 --> 00:31:08,073 ♪ Take that, take that 791 00:31:08,176 --> 00:31:13,216 ♪ But no one is ever gonna take my fucking rights back ♪ 792 00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:15,011 ♪ 793 00:31:15,114 --> 00:31:21,880 ♪ Don't touch me in the streets, no ♪ 794 00:31:21,983 --> 00:31:23,571 - We were going to play Reading Festival. 795 00:31:23,674 --> 00:31:25,124 It was fucking exciting. 796 00:31:25,228 --> 00:31:26,988 - ♪ Chicks are super strong 797 00:31:27,092 --> 00:31:28,058 - We were like, 798 00:31:28,162 --> 00:31:29,818 "Becky you can't take any drugs over." 799 00:31:29,922 --> 00:31:31,337 ♪ 800 00:31:31,441 --> 00:31:32,994 - They would say, "This is when we're leaving. 801 00:31:33,098 --> 00:31:34,513 "You better clean up. 802 00:31:34,616 --> 00:31:36,722 Plenty of time to get your shit together, Becky." 803 00:31:36,825 --> 00:31:38,241 And I, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." 804 00:31:38,344 --> 00:31:41,140 And no, no, no, 'cause I had a ten-bag-a-day heroin habit. 805 00:31:41,244 --> 00:31:44,178 ♪ 806 00:31:44,281 --> 00:31:46,559 - Reading Festival was a huge deal, 807 00:31:46,663 --> 00:31:48,527 and Nirvana was playing. 808 00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:52,151 Nirvana was on Sub Pop, and then they broke. 809 00:31:52,255 --> 00:31:56,466 And the industry realized you can have punk-based music 810 00:31:56,569 --> 00:32:00,090 be commercially successful as well. 811 00:32:00,194 --> 00:32:02,506 - There were very high expectations on everybody 812 00:32:02,610 --> 00:32:06,096 from the underground because Nirvana did so gangbusters. 813 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,443 But it was really kind of a cool era 814 00:32:08,547 --> 00:32:10,169 because there were a lot of female bands 815 00:32:10,273 --> 00:32:12,758 playing aggressive rock. 816 00:32:12,861 --> 00:32:14,898 Us, The Breeders, Lunachicks, 817 00:32:15,002 --> 00:32:16,900 7 Year Bitch, Babes in Toyland, 818 00:32:17,004 --> 00:32:18,937 and later Riot Grrrl. 819 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,904 We were all kind of banded together, 820 00:32:21,008 --> 00:32:22,768 I think, in supporting each other. 821 00:32:22,871 --> 00:32:24,563 ♪ 822 00:32:24,666 --> 00:32:27,083 - We have been thinking about playing a show. 823 00:32:27,186 --> 00:32:28,463 - Stop thinking, 824 00:32:28,567 --> 00:32:31,397 because thinking has never helped. 825 00:32:31,501 --> 00:32:34,090 You just go do what you're built to go do. 826 00:32:34,193 --> 00:32:37,196 Even if you don't physically do something, 827 00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:39,992 your spirit or soul or subconscious 828 00:32:40,096 --> 00:32:42,615 is still doing it, because you're made to do it, 829 00:32:42,719 --> 00:32:45,549 and you will walk on like you had never left 830 00:32:45,653 --> 00:32:47,793 and do what you're built to do. - Yeah. 831 00:32:47,896 --> 00:32:51,348 - I think that the time is now for a Lunachicks reunion. 832 00:32:53,212 --> 00:32:56,077 - We did sell out Irving Plaza, remember? 833 00:32:56,181 --> 00:32:57,458 That was such a fun show. 834 00:32:57,561 --> 00:32:59,736 We could play a show in the next six months 835 00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:02,670 or whenever we wanted to, if we were gonna do, like, 836 00:33:02,773 --> 00:33:06,674 you know, like, just, like, New York or LA 837 00:33:06,777 --> 00:33:08,124 or, you know, whatever. 838 00:33:08,227 --> 00:33:10,402 Like, we can--I don't think we'd need a whole year. 839 00:33:10,505 --> 00:33:12,818 - I want to wait as long as possible. 840 00:33:12,921 --> 00:33:14,785 I gotta mentally prepare. 841 00:33:14,889 --> 00:33:16,787 I gotta physically prepare. 842 00:33:16,891 --> 00:33:20,412 - Um, I don't know. I don't know. 843 00:33:20,515 --> 00:33:24,381 I mean, I don't see my life slowing down at all. 844 00:33:24,485 --> 00:33:28,351 So I just feel like there's never gonna be a good time. 845 00:33:28,454 --> 00:33:31,975 - It seems like every '90s band is on tour, 846 00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:34,391 so...everybody's doing it. 847 00:33:34,495 --> 00:33:37,153 - ♪ The ice is on fire, Antarctica burns ♪ 848 00:33:37,256 --> 00:33:38,982 - All I remember about the Lunachicks 849 00:33:39,086 --> 00:33:40,846 is that every time I saw them, 850 00:33:40,949 --> 00:33:45,126 I was high on LSD, blackout drunk, 851 00:33:45,230 --> 00:33:46,127 and they were good-looking girls 852 00:33:46,231 --> 00:33:47,680 until they got on stage, 853 00:33:47,784 --> 00:33:49,717 and then they turned into a bunch of old ladies. 854 00:33:51,339 --> 00:33:52,720 - Is that Gina Volpe? 855 00:33:56,137 --> 00:33:58,622 - You guys played with GWAR a lot. 856 00:33:58,726 --> 00:34:02,419 The Lunachicks were more than a band. 857 00:34:02,523 --> 00:34:04,697 It was a gang. 858 00:34:04,801 --> 00:34:06,492 Like, it was--[laughs] 859 00:34:06,596 --> 00:34:08,391 I can't remember what it was, but you were like, 860 00:34:08,494 --> 00:34:10,910 "You can't tie a Lunachick down!" 861 00:34:11,014 --> 00:34:12,360 You're not talking about regular girls, 862 00:34:12,464 --> 00:34:13,706 these are Lunachicks here! 863 00:34:13,810 --> 00:34:15,260 - You can't tie me down! 864 00:34:15,363 --> 00:34:17,193 - You can't tie down a Lunachick. 865 00:34:17,296 --> 00:34:19,712 You gotta be free. 866 00:34:19,816 --> 00:34:22,198 - I remember the time GWAR was on "The Joan Rivers Show." 867 00:34:22,301 --> 00:34:23,647 - You know, the Lunachicks are in it. 868 00:34:23,751 --> 00:34:24,614 - We're in the front row. 869 00:34:24,717 --> 00:34:26,409 - Yeah, "Yay!" Cheering. 870 00:34:26,512 --> 00:34:28,997 - As Oderus Urungus, lead singer of GWAR... 871 00:34:29,101 --> 00:34:33,588 - Dave Brockie, rest his soul, he was a huge Lunachicks fan. 872 00:34:33,692 --> 00:34:35,659 - We were banished here to serve eternal penance. 873 00:34:35,763 --> 00:34:38,214 - We would tour with GWAR, and by then, 874 00:34:38,317 --> 00:34:40,147 Syd was dating Oderus, the singer. 875 00:34:40,250 --> 00:34:41,493 I was very jealous, 876 00:34:41,596 --> 00:34:43,978 so I was starting shit with him. 877 00:34:44,082 --> 00:34:47,223 - The only thing more fun than being in a band with a couple 878 00:34:47,326 --> 00:34:48,638 is being in a band with a couple 879 00:34:48,741 --> 00:34:49,880 who's breaking up. 880 00:34:51,019 --> 00:34:52,469 - It got so dark. 881 00:34:52,573 --> 00:34:55,645 There was this cloud of, like, anger and bad energy, 882 00:34:55,748 --> 00:34:57,129 and the drugs got worse, 883 00:34:57,233 --> 00:34:59,649 and they were a mess, and it was--it was toxic. 884 00:35:00,788 --> 00:35:02,790 - I thought all their good ways, 885 00:35:02,893 --> 00:35:05,344 I was hoping that it would rub off on me. 886 00:35:05,448 --> 00:35:07,105 I really, really was. 887 00:35:07,208 --> 00:35:08,899 But that's not what happened. 888 00:35:09,003 --> 00:35:10,280 I was doing heroin. 889 00:35:10,384 --> 00:35:11,868 Nothing was more important to me than doing heroin. 890 00:35:13,835 --> 00:35:17,080 - The final show with her was with Murphy's Law, 891 00:35:17,184 --> 00:35:18,357 and it was Halloween. 892 00:35:18,461 --> 00:35:19,945 We all wore, like, bald wigs 893 00:35:20,048 --> 00:35:22,430 and mustaches and plaid suits, 894 00:35:22,534 --> 00:35:24,329 and she was so high that it was, like, 895 00:35:24,432 --> 00:35:25,951 in slow motion, you know? 896 00:35:26,054 --> 00:35:27,815 So that was kind of it. 897 00:35:27,918 --> 00:35:29,541 - Either they kicked me out or I quit 898 00:35:29,644 --> 00:35:31,405 and then thought they'd ask me back, 899 00:35:31,508 --> 00:35:33,200 but they probably kicked me out. 900 00:35:33,303 --> 00:35:34,580 And I--and I probably thought, 901 00:35:34,684 --> 00:35:36,134 "Ha, what are they gonna do without me?" 902 00:35:36,237 --> 00:35:38,722 Well, they did a lot without me, so... 903 00:35:40,414 --> 00:35:42,209 - Then we took our friend Kate Schellenbach, 904 00:35:42,312 --> 00:35:44,211 who is in Luscious Jackson, 905 00:35:44,314 --> 00:35:46,661 we took her out for a tour. 906 00:35:46,765 --> 00:35:50,458 [drumming] 907 00:35:50,562 --> 00:35:52,805 - I got a call from one of the Lunachicks 908 00:35:52,909 --> 00:35:55,394 saying that they were doing a tour of North America. 909 00:35:55,498 --> 00:35:56,533 "Can you play drums for us?" 910 00:35:56,637 --> 00:35:58,052 And I was like, "Oh, my God, yes." 911 00:35:58,156 --> 00:35:59,191 I was so psyched. 912 00:35:59,295 --> 00:36:00,951 It was like being asked to play drums 913 00:36:01,055 --> 00:36:02,125 for, like, your favorite band. 914 00:36:02,229 --> 00:36:03,471 It was like, so fucking cool. 915 00:36:03,575 --> 00:36:05,266 - Hey, Marsha, that was really groovy. 916 00:36:05,370 --> 00:36:07,165 - I first heard the Lunachicks 917 00:36:07,268 --> 00:36:08,856 when there was some college radio station 918 00:36:08,959 --> 00:36:10,444 playing "Jan Brady," 919 00:36:10,547 --> 00:36:12,308 and I was like, what the fuck is this? 920 00:36:12,411 --> 00:36:15,932 - ♪ Well, I am Jan Brady 921 00:36:16,035 --> 00:36:18,728 - I was obsessed, played it, like, nonstop. 922 00:36:18,831 --> 00:36:21,317 Then they were playing a show at Pyramid. 923 00:36:21,420 --> 00:36:23,457 They came out-- they said Theo was killed 924 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,424 and that she wasn't gonna be performing tonight 925 00:36:25,528 --> 00:36:28,358 'cause she was killed by Nadia Comaneci, the gymnast. 926 00:36:28,462 --> 00:36:30,015 - I would like a really warm welcome 927 00:36:30,118 --> 00:36:31,741 for Mrs. Nadia Comaneci. 928 00:36:31,844 --> 00:36:34,088 - And so out came Nadia Comaneci, 929 00:36:34,192 --> 00:36:35,883 which was Theo in, like, pigtails 930 00:36:35,986 --> 00:36:37,264 and, like, a tracksuit. 931 00:36:38,023 --> 00:36:39,887 - I am very happy to be here. 932 00:36:44,063 --> 00:36:46,894 Makin' It With Other Species 933 00:36:47,826 --> 00:36:49,172 [rock music] 934 00:36:49,276 --> 00:36:50,725 - They fuckin' rocked. 935 00:36:50,829 --> 00:36:53,625 I was so thrilled and so pumped. 936 00:36:53,728 --> 00:36:56,006 Once I saw them, everything changed. 937 00:36:56,110 --> 00:36:57,870 I swear, if I hadn't heard them, 938 00:36:57,974 --> 00:36:59,596 there probably would not have been Luscious Jackson 939 00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:02,185 in the form that it was, so it really was 940 00:37:02,289 --> 00:37:04,083 a huge, huge thing for me. 941 00:37:04,187 --> 00:37:11,229 ♪ 942 00:37:11,332 --> 00:37:14,266 - ♪ Pick, pick, pick, it's makin' me sick ♪ 943 00:37:14,370 --> 00:37:16,475 ♪ I wish the sleep fairy would come do the trick ♪ 944 00:37:16,579 --> 00:37:21,618 ♪ Oh, yeah, oh, yeah 945 00:37:21,722 --> 00:37:23,931 - Back then, there's no Internet. 946 00:37:24,034 --> 00:37:26,589 There's no social media. 947 00:37:26,692 --> 00:37:29,212 The only way to let people know you had a show, 948 00:37:29,316 --> 00:37:31,179 you had to make a flyer 949 00:37:31,283 --> 00:37:33,837 and paste it all over the city. 950 00:37:33,941 --> 00:37:35,494 And then when you were on tour, 951 00:37:35,598 --> 00:37:37,738 you would start organizing street teams. 952 00:37:37,841 --> 00:37:40,499 And these are just dedicated fans who'd hand out fliers 953 00:37:40,603 --> 00:37:42,294 and tell people about your shows. 954 00:37:42,398 --> 00:37:43,606 - ♪ Toss and turn, toss and turn ♪ 955 00:37:43,709 --> 00:37:46,436 - Being an all-female act from New York 956 00:37:46,540 --> 00:37:50,682 was a novelty and made people take notice. 957 00:37:50,785 --> 00:37:54,306 You have to then keep them looking and listening. 958 00:37:54,410 --> 00:37:56,860 And that we were able to do on our own merit. 959 00:37:56,964 --> 00:38:01,900 ♪ 960 00:38:02,003 --> 00:38:04,868 - It was so much fun touring with Kate. 961 00:38:04,972 --> 00:38:06,939 But she needed to play with Luscious Jackson, 962 00:38:07,043 --> 00:38:09,425 so we knew it was temporary. 963 00:38:09,528 --> 00:38:11,703 - We found ourselves two albums in, 964 00:38:11,806 --> 00:38:14,395 and a few years now down the road, 965 00:38:14,499 --> 00:38:15,534 we were looking for a label. 966 00:38:15,638 --> 00:38:16,673 We didn't have a manager. 967 00:38:16,777 --> 00:38:18,088 We were looking for a drummer. 968 00:38:18,192 --> 00:38:19,883 [rock music] 969 00:38:19,987 --> 00:38:21,471 We met Chip the first time 970 00:38:21,575 --> 00:38:23,646 we were looking for drummers before Becky, 971 00:38:23,749 --> 00:38:26,062 and we thought she was so cool, 972 00:38:26,165 --> 00:38:29,962 and we wanted her to be in the band, 973 00:38:30,066 --> 00:38:32,758 and she said no. 974 00:38:32,862 --> 00:38:36,417 - I'm from a small town in Pennsylvania. 975 00:38:36,521 --> 00:38:38,730 In kindergarten, they offered 976 00:38:38,833 --> 00:38:41,077 musical instruments to everybody. 977 00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:42,458 So I went, "I'm playing the drums! 978 00:38:42,561 --> 00:38:43,976 That's what I want to do." 979 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,704 And the teacher would always hand the drums to the boys. 980 00:38:47,808 --> 00:38:50,742 So I was like, "Why--why can't I be handed the drums?" 981 00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:55,333 Being gay and not out in Pennsylvania 982 00:38:55,436 --> 00:38:59,026 at the age of 13, 14, 15, 16, 983 00:38:59,129 --> 00:39:00,510 I didn't like anybody. 984 00:39:00,614 --> 00:39:05,135 There was nobody to strive to be part of. 985 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,138 You know? I--I wanted better. 986 00:39:08,242 --> 00:39:11,003 And better was New York. 987 00:39:11,107 --> 00:39:12,315 [rock music] 988 00:39:12,419 --> 00:39:14,973 I came upon Lunachicks early on. 989 00:39:15,076 --> 00:39:18,597 They were very young, and I auditioned for them, 990 00:39:18,701 --> 00:39:19,736 and they said, like, "Yeah, cool. 991 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,531 We want you as our drummer." 992 00:39:21,635 --> 00:39:25,639 So I called Squid to set up a rehearsal, 993 00:39:25,742 --> 00:39:27,779 and her dad answered the phone, 994 00:39:27,882 --> 00:39:29,401 and I said, "Yeah, is Squid there?" 995 00:39:29,505 --> 00:39:32,093 And you could tell he was yelling up the stairs, 996 00:39:32,197 --> 00:39:34,372 "Sydney, you have a phone call!" 997 00:39:34,475 --> 00:39:37,236 And I was like, "What the hell?" 998 00:39:37,340 --> 00:39:38,790 And I think I told them, it's like, 999 00:39:38,893 --> 00:39:40,274 "Oh, you know, look, I can't do this. 1000 00:39:40,378 --> 00:39:42,414 I've got some other things going on." 1001 00:39:42,518 --> 00:39:45,210 - Years later, we just called her up and said, 1002 00:39:45,313 --> 00:39:46,660 "Hey, we have a tour coming up. 1003 00:39:46,763 --> 00:39:48,386 "Will you come on the tour with us, 1004 00:39:48,489 --> 00:39:50,146 and we'll just see how it goes?'" 1005 00:39:50,249 --> 00:39:52,942 - So I went on tour with the Lunachicks to Europe, 1006 00:39:53,045 --> 00:39:56,324 and it was the greatest fuckin' thing ever. 1007 00:39:56,428 --> 00:39:59,120 - ♪ Lookin' at you with your seven toes ♪ 1008 00:39:59,224 --> 00:40:01,882 ♪ Always there when I'm tastin' the woes ♪ 1009 00:40:01,985 --> 00:40:04,574 ♪ Your shit stinks worse than the rest ♪ 1010 00:40:04,678 --> 00:40:06,921 ♪ But my honey, I think you're the best ♪ 1011 00:40:07,025 --> 00:40:10,097 - In England, there was one show 1012 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,202 maybe two weeks into the tour 1013 00:40:12,306 --> 00:40:14,481 where we're in a dressing room, 1014 00:40:14,584 --> 00:40:16,966 and there was, like, a big glass mirror 1015 00:40:17,069 --> 00:40:18,588 in the dressing room. 1016 00:40:18,692 --> 00:40:21,004 - After the gig, the girls are, like, 1017 00:40:21,108 --> 00:40:23,938 stripped down naked-- you know, like, fhoosh-- 1018 00:40:24,042 --> 00:40:26,320 and I'm looking at this mirror, 1019 00:40:26,424 --> 00:40:28,322 and it didn't sit right with me. 1020 00:40:28,426 --> 00:40:30,669 So I looked in the mirror, and it's like, 1021 00:40:30,773 --> 00:40:33,189 "That kind of seems like something's back behind that." 1022 00:40:33,292 --> 00:40:36,019 And I went outside the door and I opened the door, 1023 00:40:36,123 --> 00:40:37,296 and three guys came running 1024 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,678 out of the door behind the wall. 1025 00:40:39,782 --> 00:40:40,921 And I went in to the girls. 1026 00:40:41,024 --> 00:40:44,649 I'm like, "There's a two-way mirror. 1027 00:40:44,752 --> 00:40:46,823 This is a two-way mirror, you guys." 1028 00:40:46,927 --> 00:40:48,480 - So we realized that they were, like, 1029 00:40:48,584 --> 00:40:52,760 watching us change, and we were so pissed. 1030 00:40:52,864 --> 00:40:55,556 - I just remember seeing the girls 1031 00:40:55,660 --> 00:40:58,283 having, like, a look on their face of just being, 1032 00:40:58,386 --> 00:41:01,666 you know, like, violated, 1033 00:41:01,769 --> 00:41:04,945 and that struck a thing in me. 1034 00:41:05,048 --> 00:41:09,190 - So all hell broke loose, and Chip was right there, 1035 00:41:09,294 --> 00:41:12,262 ready to beat the shit out of these guys. 1036 00:41:12,366 --> 00:41:16,059 - I took a chair, and I smashed it through the window. 1037 00:41:16,163 --> 00:41:17,854 I did one of those things with the rungs of the chair. 1038 00:41:17,958 --> 00:41:19,511 I just, like, went...[trilling] 1039 00:41:19,615 --> 00:41:23,619 And I started picking up lights, going, smash! 1040 00:41:23,722 --> 00:41:25,552 - I believe we were all wearing tutus. 1041 00:41:25,655 --> 00:41:29,176 So we surrounded the owner in our tutus. 1042 00:41:29,279 --> 00:41:33,042 - "There's a two-way fucking mirror, you fucking assholes!" 1043 00:41:33,145 --> 00:41:34,975 "What, what? No, no, no." 1044 00:41:35,078 --> 00:41:37,080 And Squid's like, "Yeah, there's a two-way mirror!" 1045 00:41:37,184 --> 00:41:40,152 They're like, "Well, what do you want us to do?" 1046 00:41:40,256 --> 00:41:41,429 - And Syd was like, 1047 00:41:41,533 --> 00:41:42,983 "You take off your fucking pants!" 1048 00:41:43,086 --> 00:41:45,848 And, like, made the guy pull his pants down. 1049 00:41:45,951 --> 00:41:47,090 [laughing] 1050 00:41:47,194 --> 00:41:49,437 Imagine these demented Barbie dolls 1051 00:41:49,541 --> 00:41:51,819 standing over you in tutus and, like, blacked out teeth, 1052 00:41:51,923 --> 00:41:53,752 like, "Now you take off your pants!" 1053 00:41:53,856 --> 00:41:55,340 We're all like, "Yeah!" 1054 00:41:55,443 --> 00:41:57,135 And he did. He took his pants down. 1055 00:41:57,238 --> 00:41:59,309 What is he gonna do? 1056 00:41:59,413 --> 00:42:02,623 We reported it to some tabloid just to get the word out. 1057 00:42:02,727 --> 00:42:05,143 Like, this is so wrong. 1058 00:42:05,246 --> 00:42:08,871 - But the next day after that, the band came to me 1059 00:42:08,974 --> 00:42:13,392 saying, "We want you in the band. 1060 00:42:13,496 --> 00:42:16,464 Do you think you could be our drummer?" 1061 00:42:16,568 --> 00:42:18,881 And I was like, "Yeah, yeah." 1062 00:42:18,984 --> 00:42:21,124 It's like, if that was my initiation, like... 1063 00:42:21,228 --> 00:42:23,402 - "We want you in the band. Just join the band. 1064 00:42:23,506 --> 00:42:25,439 Come on, you're one of us." 1065 00:42:25,543 --> 00:42:27,165 So she did. 1066 00:42:27,268 --> 00:42:29,961 - ♪ Walk in front of a car at the mall ♪ 1067 00:42:30,064 --> 00:42:32,377 ♪ Trip and fall in the hall 1068 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,137 ♪ Smash your head against the wall ♪ 1069 00:42:34,241 --> 00:42:37,693 ♪ You want to die, I can see it in your eyes ♪ 1070 00:42:37,796 --> 00:42:40,109 ♪ Rob a bank, tip the boat, sell yourself ♪ 1071 00:42:40,212 --> 00:42:41,144 ♪ Break the law 1072 00:42:41,248 --> 00:42:43,388 ♪ 1073 00:42:43,491 --> 00:42:47,357 ♪ I like you better 1074 00:42:47,461 --> 00:42:50,706 - When Chip joined the band, we became tighter, faster. 1075 00:42:50,809 --> 00:42:54,261 We had kind of reached a new level. 1076 00:42:54,364 --> 00:42:59,542 - It really became the machine that it was meant to be. 1077 00:42:59,646 --> 00:43:00,819 - We were looking for a label, 1078 00:43:00,923 --> 00:43:02,614 and we met with Go Kart, 1079 00:43:02,718 --> 00:43:04,616 and they were just starting out. 1080 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:06,584 Greg basically said to us, 1081 00:43:06,687 --> 00:43:09,621 "Because I'm new at this and eager, 1082 00:43:09,725 --> 00:43:12,072 I'm gonna make everything about you guys." 1083 00:43:12,175 --> 00:43:14,074 And he did. 1084 00:43:14,177 --> 00:43:17,077 He put all of his time, energy, and money into 1085 00:43:17,180 --> 00:43:19,666 getting "Jerk Of All Trades" up and running. 1086 00:43:19,769 --> 00:43:20,908 - ♪ She can dance - ♪ She can sing 1087 00:43:21,012 --> 00:43:22,220 both: ♪ She can do most anything 1088 00:43:22,323 --> 00:43:24,809 ♪ She is the jerk, the jerk of all trades ♪ 1089 00:43:24,912 --> 00:43:26,051 - ♪ She can build - ♪ She can fight 1090 00:43:26,155 --> 00:43:27,570 both: ♪ She can bust out your light 1091 00:43:27,674 --> 00:43:29,814 ♪ She is the jerk, the jerk of all trades ♪ 1092 00:43:29,917 --> 00:43:31,022 ♪ Never, ever 1093 00:43:31,125 --> 00:43:32,437 - There are songs on "Jerk Of All Trades" 1094 00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:35,578 that so summed up that time and feeling and power. 1095 00:43:35,682 --> 00:43:37,684 And we were like a gang or an army, 1096 00:43:37,787 --> 00:43:39,996 or we were on this mission. 1097 00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:42,447 - No one ever fucked with us. 1098 00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:46,382 And if they did, we always won. 1099 00:43:46,485 --> 00:43:47,763 - That's it! I got a gun. 1100 00:43:47,866 --> 00:43:50,006 Everybody hit the deck, or the nun gets it! 1101 00:43:50,110 --> 00:43:52,422 - None of them took any shit from anybody in the audience, 1102 00:43:52,526 --> 00:43:53,561 which I loved. 1103 00:43:53,665 --> 00:43:54,632 I mean, Theo used to, like, 1104 00:43:54,735 --> 00:43:56,150 just tell people to fuck off. 1105 00:43:56,254 --> 00:43:58,808 And she threw her tampon at somebody once 1106 00:43:58,912 --> 00:44:01,328 in the audience that was giving her a hard time. 1107 00:44:01,431 --> 00:44:03,571 Like, you know, I just thought, 1108 00:44:03,675 --> 00:44:05,470 oh, my God, that's so amazing. 1109 00:44:05,573 --> 00:44:06,954 It's so John Waters. 1110 00:44:07,058 --> 00:44:08,059 - [grunts] 1111 00:44:08,162 --> 00:44:10,509 - That was such an exciting year. 1112 00:44:10,613 --> 00:44:12,304 Things were really happening. 1113 00:44:12,408 --> 00:44:14,962 ♪ 1114 00:44:15,066 --> 00:44:17,655 - Theo was doing a lot of modeling. 1115 00:44:17,758 --> 00:44:19,518 Designers started coming to her, like, 1116 00:44:19,622 --> 00:44:21,141 "You're tattooed and you're gorgeous, 1117 00:44:21,244 --> 00:44:23,143 and, you know, we want you to represent us." 1118 00:44:23,246 --> 00:44:26,698 - She had done the Calvin Klein campaign... 1119 00:44:26,802 --> 00:44:27,768 - Just be. 1120 00:44:27,872 --> 00:44:29,528 - That got blasted 'cause 1121 00:44:29,632 --> 00:44:30,944 they said everybody looked like junkies. 1122 00:44:31,047 --> 00:44:33,222 - "Be what?" some critics ask. 1123 00:44:33,325 --> 00:44:35,327 Be dirty? Ragged? 1124 00:44:35,431 --> 00:44:38,676 Made to look like they're strung out, wasted on drugs? 1125 00:44:38,779 --> 00:44:40,229 - She was on "The Jon Stewart Show." 1126 00:44:40,332 --> 00:44:41,644 - The lead singer for the Lunachicks. 1127 00:44:41,748 --> 00:44:43,335 Everybody welcome Theo. 1128 00:44:43,439 --> 00:44:44,716 [cheers and applause] 1129 00:44:44,820 --> 00:44:46,269 - When I was-- oy, when I was in school-- 1130 00:44:46,373 --> 00:44:47,201 - I'm sorry, "oy"? 1131 00:44:47,305 --> 00:44:48,340 - Oy vey! 1132 00:44:48,444 --> 00:44:49,721 The last thing I expected to hear from you 1133 00:44:49,825 --> 00:44:52,310 was, in fact, "oy," I have to say. 1134 00:44:52,413 --> 00:44:56,555 - I found this gal, the cover of the "Pretty Ugly" album, 1135 00:44:56,659 --> 00:44:59,110 Barbie head, that we did burn. 1136 00:44:59,213 --> 00:45:01,733 ♪ Why must I stand on my toes 1137 00:45:01,837 --> 00:45:04,011 ♪ Perfect smile and skintight clothes ♪ 1138 00:45:04,115 --> 00:45:06,393 ♪ Cinched waist, no cunt to piss with ♪ 1139 00:45:06,496 --> 00:45:08,636 ♪ A stamp on my ass 1140 00:45:08,740 --> 00:45:10,397 I was six or seven. 1141 00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:11,743 I got this giant Barbie. 1142 00:45:11,847 --> 00:45:13,503 It was super tall. 1143 00:45:13,607 --> 00:45:14,677 It was a drag queen. 1144 00:45:14,781 --> 00:45:16,127 At that moment, it clicked, 1145 00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:17,438 and I was like, I want to be that. 1146 00:45:17,542 --> 00:45:18,716 I want to be a giant woman. 1147 00:45:18,819 --> 00:45:20,165 And that's what happened. 1148 00:45:20,269 --> 00:45:23,375 I was trained by Miss Guy and all these drag queens, 1149 00:45:23,479 --> 00:45:26,654 learning how to make myself into that. 1150 00:45:26,758 --> 00:45:28,035 [laughs] 1151 00:45:28,139 --> 00:45:32,902 ♪ Bitterness Barbie, boobs are sagging ♪ 1152 00:45:33,006 --> 00:45:35,284 I really enjoy being in front of the camera. 1153 00:45:35,387 --> 00:45:36,768 I enjoy dressing up. 1154 00:45:36,872 --> 00:45:38,459 I enjoyed getting my makeup and hair done. 1155 00:45:38,563 --> 00:45:40,738 I don't think the band really liked it. 1156 00:45:40,841 --> 00:45:43,568 What they have to do is get me to the airport 1157 00:45:43,671 --> 00:45:44,983 from--you know, to New York. 1158 00:45:45,087 --> 00:45:46,882 There was some tension. I felt it. 1159 00:45:46,985 --> 00:45:48,331 And then back for the gig. 1160 00:45:48,435 --> 00:45:49,781 - Guaranteed, right? - They're gonna-- 1161 00:45:49,885 --> 00:45:51,507 - We want a written contract that says that 1162 00:45:51,610 --> 00:45:53,164 you'll be back in time for the gig 1163 00:45:53,267 --> 00:45:54,959 or we want a thousand dollars for each of us. 1164 00:45:55,062 --> 00:45:55,994 - Totally. - Yeah. 1165 00:45:56,098 --> 00:45:57,306 If, like, for some reason, 1166 00:45:57,409 --> 00:45:59,757 you're plane is delayed and you miss the gig, 1167 00:45:59,860 --> 00:46:00,758 we can't, like, afford to not... 1168 00:46:00,861 --> 00:46:02,035 - Oh, no. - Just make sure you-- 1169 00:46:02,138 --> 00:46:03,105 - The only thing I would miss is soundcheck. 1170 00:46:03,208 --> 00:46:04,796 And then I'd get to the show. 1171 00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:06,039 - Um, well, that's all your problem. 1172 00:46:06,142 --> 00:46:08,696 - OK, we'll take a smaller fee for that. 1173 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,217 - I felt like they didn't want anyone to look too pretty. 1174 00:46:12,321 --> 00:46:14,668 And it's like, why can't we be good-looking too? 1175 00:46:14,772 --> 00:46:16,014 You know, we're funny, and we're gross, 1176 00:46:16,118 --> 00:46:18,741 but it's okay to--to show all sides. 1177 00:46:18,845 --> 00:46:20,018 To me. 1178 00:46:20,122 --> 00:46:21,364 ♪ 1179 00:46:21,468 --> 00:46:24,782 Because on the other side of me was this person 1180 00:46:24,885 --> 00:46:26,887 when I got on stage that was like, 1181 00:46:26,991 --> 00:46:29,234 "Fuck you. Nobody can fuck with me. 1182 00:46:29,338 --> 00:46:31,271 And if anyone does, I will kill you." 1183 00:46:31,374 --> 00:46:33,825 [vocalizing] 1184 00:46:33,929 --> 00:46:39,348 ♪ 1185 00:46:39,451 --> 00:46:41,868 - The Lunachicks had a lot of gay fans-- 1186 00:46:41,971 --> 00:46:43,973 gay boys, gay girls, and everything in between. 1187 00:46:44,077 --> 00:46:46,355 Boys dressed up, girls dressed up, 1188 00:46:46,458 --> 00:46:48,288 butch girls, femme boys. 1189 00:46:48,391 --> 00:46:52,430 It was a super fun mix of people at a Lunachicks show. 1190 00:46:52,533 --> 00:46:54,087 ♪ 1191 00:46:54,190 --> 00:46:55,398 By the time of "Jerk of All Trades," 1192 00:46:55,502 --> 00:46:57,262 they were packing out every club they played. 1193 00:46:57,366 --> 00:46:59,540 Plus, then they would also be opening 1194 00:46:59,644 --> 00:47:02,198 for bigger artists and playing amphitheaters and arenas. 1195 00:47:02,302 --> 00:47:05,201 - [vocalizing] 1196 00:47:05,305 --> 00:47:08,756 ♪ 1197 00:47:08,860 --> 00:47:12,450 Are you ready to rock, Tokyo? 1198 00:47:12,553 --> 00:47:16,109 - The album "Jerk of All Trades" was doing really well, 1199 00:47:16,212 --> 00:47:18,490 and we were going on bigger tours by then. 1200 00:47:18,594 --> 00:47:20,734 - ♪ Light as a feather, stiff as a board ♪ 1201 00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:22,805 ♪ Stiff as a week in May 1202 00:47:22,909 --> 00:47:24,842 ♪ I dare you, I dare you 1203 00:47:24,945 --> 00:47:27,016 ♪ Do it now or you can't play 1204 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,846 ♪ Jump the bridge, just for kicks ♪ 1205 00:47:28,949 --> 00:47:31,158 ♪ Jump the bridge and pray 1206 00:47:31,262 --> 00:47:36,957 ♪ I dare you, I dare you, do it and die today ♪ 1207 00:47:37,061 --> 00:47:41,306 ♪ Light as a feather 1208 00:47:41,410 --> 00:47:43,515 ♪ Stiff as a board, stiff as a board ♪ 1209 00:47:43,619 --> 00:47:46,449 ♪ 1210 00:47:46,553 --> 00:47:47,623 - You know, there's people 1211 00:47:47,726 --> 00:47:49,245 that just can't take it on tour. 1212 00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:53,594 And the fact that the five of us, like, survived so well, 1213 00:47:53,698 --> 00:47:55,113 at least I thought we did. 1214 00:47:55,217 --> 00:47:59,152 I thought we, like-- we really thrived together. 1215 00:47:59,255 --> 00:48:04,191 Five people and a tour manager and a merch girl. 1216 00:48:04,295 --> 00:48:09,058 I saw it all as going very, very, very well. 1217 00:48:09,162 --> 00:48:11,198 There was a lot of laughs. 1218 00:48:11,302 --> 00:48:13,580 There was a lot of laughing going on. 1219 00:48:13,683 --> 00:48:15,202 - Welcome to the annual 1220 00:48:15,306 --> 00:48:18,447 Plumber Butt Race Up the Hill contest, 1221 00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:19,724 and wait, hold on. 1222 00:48:19,827 --> 00:48:21,139 Let me get a close-up on those. 1223 00:48:21,243 --> 00:48:23,210 Oh, yes, it's contestant number one 1224 00:48:23,314 --> 00:48:24,384 right there on the right. 1225 00:48:24,487 --> 00:48:25,626 That's Chip. 1226 00:48:25,730 --> 00:48:28,215 Contestant number two, Theo, 1227 00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:30,252 and contestant number three, Squid. 1228 00:48:30,355 --> 00:48:32,737 Well, they all look pretty good, I must say. 1229 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,773 This is going to be a tough decision. 1230 00:48:34,877 --> 00:48:38,570 Plumbers, set your mark. Go! 1231 00:48:38,674 --> 00:48:40,814 [laughs] 1232 00:48:40,918 --> 00:48:42,195 - Oh, my gosh. 1233 00:48:43,782 --> 00:48:45,819 - Oh, that was a close race, folks, 1234 00:48:45,923 --> 00:48:47,579 a real close race. 1235 00:48:47,683 --> 00:48:48,787 I don't know. 1236 00:48:48,891 --> 00:48:50,513 I think we might have to have a rematch. 1237 00:48:50,617 --> 00:48:52,550 [laughter] 1238 00:48:52,653 --> 00:48:57,106 - ♪ You're a mental case 1239 00:48:57,210 --> 00:48:59,212 ♪ 'Bout time I smash your face ♪ 1240 00:48:59,315 --> 00:49:01,248 ♪ Got a habit of steppin' out of line ♪ 1241 00:49:01,352 --> 00:49:03,354 ♪ Oh, yeah, well, here comes your time ♪ 1242 00:49:03,457 --> 00:49:06,012 - We would get a lot of young girls 1243 00:49:06,115 --> 00:49:07,565 coming up to us and saying, 1244 00:49:07,668 --> 00:49:11,810 "Oh, my God, you have really changed my way of thinking, 1245 00:49:11,914 --> 00:49:13,605 "of seeing myself in the world 1246 00:49:13,709 --> 00:49:17,747 or helping me understand it's okay to be who I am." 1247 00:49:17,851 --> 00:49:20,026 ♪ 1248 00:49:20,129 --> 00:49:22,269 - When I hear things like that from fans, 1249 00:49:22,373 --> 00:49:24,996 it's like, that makes all that suffering 1250 00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:27,274 that we did on the side of the road 1251 00:49:27,378 --> 00:49:30,415 and sleeping on floors and, you know, 1252 00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:33,280 running out of gas, like, worth everything. 1253 00:49:33,384 --> 00:49:35,006 ♪ Great green globs of greasy, grimy gopher guts ♪ 1254 00:49:35,110 --> 00:49:36,111 ♪ Mutilated monkey meat 1255 00:49:36,214 --> 00:49:37,629 ♪ Chopped up little birdies' feet ♪ 1256 00:49:37,733 --> 00:49:39,321 ♪ French fried eyeballs rolling down the dirty street ♪ 1257 00:49:39,424 --> 00:49:41,323 ♪ And I forgot my spoon 1258 00:49:42,910 --> 00:49:44,326 In the beginning, it was like, 1259 00:49:44,429 --> 00:49:46,500 "Oh, my God, we're in a band. This is so fun." 1260 00:49:46,604 --> 00:49:48,295 Is this not made for me? 1261 00:49:48,399 --> 00:49:50,228 But we're also feminists, 1262 00:49:50,332 --> 00:49:51,574 and we're pro-choice, 1263 00:49:51,678 --> 00:49:53,714 and these things are being threatened still. 1264 00:49:53,818 --> 00:49:56,441 My mother also has been fighting 1265 00:49:56,545 --> 00:49:59,582 for her right to choice since the '60s, 1266 00:49:59,686 --> 00:50:01,205 and she continues to fight, 1267 00:50:01,308 --> 00:50:06,348 and I will continue to fight as long as is necessary. 1268 00:50:06,451 --> 00:50:10,559 I found all these shirts, and there's this guy. 1269 00:50:10,662 --> 00:50:12,319 Us and Fugazi, Pearl Jam, 1270 00:50:12,423 --> 00:50:14,908 and L7, who put the whole thing together. 1271 00:50:15,012 --> 00:50:17,462 1992. 1272 00:50:17,566 --> 00:50:20,327 And we're still fighting for our choice today. 1273 00:50:20,431 --> 00:50:21,535 [chuckles] 1274 00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:24,538 [rock music] 1275 00:50:24,642 --> 00:50:25,746 ♪ 1276 00:50:25,850 --> 00:50:27,162 - ♪ I can't go on like this 1277 00:50:27,265 --> 00:50:29,440 ♪ I didn't understand a word you said ♪ 1278 00:50:29,543 --> 00:50:31,787 - We did do a reunion once before. 1279 00:50:31,890 --> 00:50:33,478 - ♪ You didn't mean to not to ♪ 1280 00:50:33,582 --> 00:50:35,066 ♪ But you didn't 'cause you couldn't ♪ 1281 00:50:35,170 --> 00:50:37,034 ♪ But would have if you could have ♪ 1282 00:50:37,137 --> 00:50:38,587 ♪ And you might, but you wouldn't ♪ 1283 00:50:38,690 --> 00:50:40,106 ♪ Say what you mean 1284 00:50:40,209 --> 00:50:43,868 - In 2004, we played a big pro-choice show 1285 00:50:43,971 --> 00:50:46,629 in D.C. with Joan Jett. 1286 00:50:46,733 --> 00:50:50,323 - ♪ Well, today will soon be yesterday ♪ 1287 00:50:50,426 --> 00:50:54,016 ♪ Tomorrow will be today 1288 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,675 ♪ And I'm waiting every day 1289 00:50:57,778 --> 00:50:59,056 Ah! 1290 00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:00,057 ♪ For you to say what you mean ♪ 1291 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,368 ♪ Mean what you say 1292 00:51:01,472 --> 00:51:03,060 ♪ Say what you mean, don't say it mean ♪ 1293 00:51:03,163 --> 00:51:04,440 ♪ Say what you, say what you 1294 00:51:04,544 --> 00:51:07,616 ♪ Say what you, say what you mean ♪ 1295 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,135 [cheers and applause] 1296 00:51:09,238 --> 00:51:10,722 all: Lunachicks! 1297 00:51:10,826 --> 00:51:12,759 Lunachicks! 1298 00:51:12,862 --> 00:51:15,106 Lunachicks! Lunachicks! 1299 00:51:15,210 --> 00:51:17,695 Lunachicks! 1300 00:51:17,798 --> 00:51:21,319 - Oh, my God. 1301 00:51:21,423 --> 00:51:24,667 Holy--Stormy, you are so adorable. 1302 00:51:24,771 --> 00:51:26,324 Holy shit. 1303 00:51:26,428 --> 00:51:28,223 - I have missed you guys so much. 1304 00:51:28,326 --> 00:51:31,674 I was so excited when Theo called me. 1305 00:51:31,778 --> 00:51:34,539 So tell me how this whole thing came about. 1306 00:51:34,643 --> 00:51:37,094 Is there a book that's coming out? 1307 00:51:37,197 --> 00:51:39,061 - Yeah, we're working on a book. 1308 00:51:39,165 --> 00:51:40,821 - Yeah. - Are you guys wanting 1309 00:51:40,925 --> 00:51:42,823 to go out and do an actual tour? 1310 00:51:42,927 --> 00:51:44,929 Or are you just wanting to kind of do more, 1311 00:51:45,032 --> 00:51:47,380 like, fly in, fly out-- 1312 00:51:47,483 --> 00:51:49,347 - Can we do, like, some anonymous show 1313 00:51:49,451 --> 00:51:51,349 just very far away, so if we suck, 1314 00:51:51,453 --> 00:51:53,282 that nobody really knows? 1315 00:51:53,386 --> 00:51:54,663 - Um, you know, you can't stop people 1316 00:51:54,766 --> 00:51:56,389 from taking cell phones into shows, 1317 00:51:56,492 --> 00:51:59,012 so everything gets recorded now. 1318 00:51:59,116 --> 00:52:01,014 - Good thing you look so good, Kogan. 1319 00:52:01,118 --> 00:52:02,222 - [laughs] 1320 00:52:02,326 --> 00:52:03,396 - Ditto, Silver. 1321 00:52:03,499 --> 00:52:05,777 - You got nothing to hide, girl. 1322 00:52:05,881 --> 00:52:07,745 Don't be shy. 1323 00:52:07,848 --> 00:52:10,057 [laughter] 1324 00:52:10,161 --> 00:52:12,059 [rock music] 1325 00:52:12,163 --> 00:52:13,785 When we first started, we were literally 1326 00:52:13,889 --> 00:52:17,237 banging on pots and pans in my bedroom of my parents' house, 1327 00:52:17,341 --> 00:52:19,550 and it became more serious. 1328 00:52:19,653 --> 00:52:21,310 - ♪ When I look into your big brown eyes ♪ 1329 00:52:21,414 --> 00:52:23,140 - We knew that, because we were women, 1330 00:52:23,243 --> 00:52:26,591 people were looking at us to fail. 1331 00:52:26,695 --> 00:52:29,318 And although we never took our image seriously, 1332 00:52:29,422 --> 00:52:33,978 we took very seriously being taken seriously. 1333 00:52:34,081 --> 00:52:35,669 You know, it's like, fuck you. 1334 00:52:35,773 --> 00:52:37,084 We can play. 1335 00:52:37,188 --> 00:52:39,397 Fuck you. We can play better than you. 1336 00:52:39,501 --> 00:52:40,398 - We wanted to be kids. 1337 00:52:40,502 --> 00:52:42,262 We still wanted to be kids. 1338 00:52:42,366 --> 00:52:45,438 We wanted to play better than all the guys 1339 00:52:45,541 --> 00:52:48,648 because people really would say, 1340 00:52:48,751 --> 00:52:50,546 "Oh, you guys are pretty good for girls." 1341 00:52:50,650 --> 00:52:52,272 ♪ 1342 00:52:52,376 --> 00:52:54,516 - No, we can't book another female band 1343 00:52:54,619 --> 00:52:57,415 this month because we had one playing last month. 1344 00:52:57,519 --> 00:53:00,763 No, we can't feature another female band in our magazine 1345 00:53:00,867 --> 00:53:03,421 because we did one two weeks ago. 1346 00:53:03,525 --> 00:53:05,216 - They had filled their quota. 1347 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,669 That was given as a reason by these people and with no shame. 1348 00:53:09,772 --> 00:53:11,118 [light music] 1349 00:53:11,222 --> 00:53:13,707 - There was a rock station in New York. 1350 00:53:13,811 --> 00:53:16,883 They flat-out said, "It's too many female bands 1351 00:53:16,986 --> 00:53:19,368 for one playlist." 1352 00:53:19,472 --> 00:53:21,094 We happened to be playing a show that was 1353 00:53:21,198 --> 00:53:22,820 sponsored by that radio station, 1354 00:53:22,923 --> 00:53:24,891 and they had a banner in front of the stage, 1355 00:53:24,994 --> 00:53:29,206 and Theo was like, "Q104, pure cock rock!" 1356 00:53:29,309 --> 00:53:31,138 And she ripped the banner. 1357 00:53:31,242 --> 00:53:33,210 And they were like, "We're never gonna play you ever now." 1358 00:53:33,313 --> 00:53:35,419 [laughs] 1359 00:53:35,522 --> 00:53:37,490 - We had the same booking agent, Stormy. 1360 00:53:37,593 --> 00:53:39,906 And the Lunachicks were kind of more of 1361 00:53:40,009 --> 00:53:41,425 an established band, right? 1362 00:53:41,528 --> 00:53:44,531 So Stormy suggested that we could open up for 'em 1363 00:53:44,635 --> 00:53:47,120 on their tour, and we were thrilled. 1364 00:53:47,224 --> 00:53:48,397 We're watching 'em play, going, 1365 00:53:48,501 --> 00:53:51,469 Jesus, these guys are like-- they're a big band. 1366 00:53:51,573 --> 00:53:52,884 We got our work cut out for us, 1367 00:53:52,988 --> 00:53:54,161 trying to keep up with them. 1368 00:53:54,265 --> 00:53:56,025 [cheers and applause] 1369 00:53:56,129 --> 00:53:57,475 And then "Smash" came out. 1370 00:53:57,579 --> 00:53:59,719 - ♪ La, la, la, la, la 1371 00:53:59,822 --> 00:54:02,169 - And now we needed someone to open up for us. 1372 00:54:02,273 --> 00:54:06,381 ♪ 1373 00:54:06,484 --> 00:54:09,522 - The Offspring had opened for us. 1374 00:54:09,625 --> 00:54:12,387 Then, boom, they're millionaires, 1375 00:54:12,490 --> 00:54:15,424 and we're opening for them at arenas. 1376 00:54:15,528 --> 00:54:17,012 - The whole music industry changed, 1377 00:54:17,115 --> 00:54:19,428 and all of a sudden, punk rock became mainstream. 1378 00:54:19,532 --> 00:54:22,707 And people were making money-- and, like, a lot of money. 1379 00:54:22,811 --> 00:54:25,848 And you would hear about some person that got signed, 1380 00:54:25,952 --> 00:54:27,885 and then they were in a bus the next day. 1381 00:54:27,988 --> 00:54:31,682 And we were like, we've been sitting in a van for 12 years. 1382 00:54:31,785 --> 00:54:32,752 - Isn't it lovely? 1383 00:54:32,855 --> 00:54:33,925 - Lovely mobile home to call our own. 1384 00:54:34,029 --> 00:54:35,513 - We finally got an RV. 1385 00:54:35,617 --> 00:54:37,481 - And then, like, when we get these little breaks... 1386 00:54:37,584 --> 00:54:39,966 - After, what is it-- nine, ten years of touring? 1387 00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:41,692 Like an RV for the first time, 1388 00:54:41,795 --> 00:54:44,384 and then someone would be like, "Yeah, you fucking sell-out!" 1389 00:54:44,488 --> 00:54:46,352 Like, are you kidding me? 1390 00:54:46,455 --> 00:54:47,560 - What's going on? - We're going to the home 1391 00:54:47,663 --> 00:54:49,838 of the Lunachicks on tour. 1392 00:54:49,941 --> 00:54:51,357 Hello, Lunachicks. 1393 00:54:51,460 --> 00:54:53,566 We're here from "Lifestyles of the Poor and--" 1394 00:54:53,669 --> 00:54:54,808 - No! 1395 00:54:54,912 --> 00:54:56,707 - The roots of what you want are always 1396 00:54:56,810 --> 00:54:59,296 punk rock and start from nothing. 1397 00:54:59,399 --> 00:55:01,608 I mean, that's all really fun. 1398 00:55:01,712 --> 00:55:04,784 But as you become older, and you see other people 1399 00:55:04,887 --> 00:55:08,270 with a whole team of management and publicity 1400 00:55:08,374 --> 00:55:11,618 and money being put into your art 1401 00:55:11,722 --> 00:55:13,827 that makes it more accessible for people, 1402 00:55:13,931 --> 00:55:15,173 there was always that feeling like, 1403 00:55:15,277 --> 00:55:16,934 if we could get that little break, 1404 00:55:17,037 --> 00:55:20,696 that we could reach more people and sell more records. 1405 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,767 - You know, they were all phenomenal musicians. 1406 00:55:22,871 --> 00:55:24,735 I remember Gina teaching me how to play guitar 1407 00:55:24,838 --> 00:55:26,599 in the back of the bus one time. 1408 00:55:26,702 --> 00:55:28,739 Seriously, like teaching me guitar riffs that, 1409 00:55:28,842 --> 00:55:30,499 you know, I didn't know how to play. 1410 00:55:30,603 --> 00:55:32,432 - It was a very male-dominated world. 1411 00:55:32,536 --> 00:55:33,640 And that's part of why 1412 00:55:33,744 --> 00:55:34,848 I really enjoyed bringing them on tour, 1413 00:55:34,952 --> 00:55:37,299 'cause, like, you don't see this every day. 1414 00:55:37,403 --> 00:55:39,543 This is really cool and different and unique. 1415 00:55:39,646 --> 00:55:42,442 You know, they didn't get their due, for sure. 1416 00:55:42,546 --> 00:55:45,031 - The other bands, they all shared with us, 1417 00:55:45,134 --> 00:55:47,102 and they treated us well, 1418 00:55:47,205 --> 00:55:50,450 so I didn't begrudge any of them their success. 1419 00:55:50,554 --> 00:55:53,315 But there was no fathomable reason 1420 00:55:53,419 --> 00:55:57,146 why we weren't also participating in that. 1421 00:55:57,250 --> 00:55:59,528 We had paid all the dues. 1422 00:55:59,632 --> 00:56:02,289 All the dues had been paid with interest. 1423 00:56:02,393 --> 00:56:04,913 And it just didn't make any sense. 1424 00:56:05,016 --> 00:56:07,985 - ♪ You'll never be good enough ♪ 1425 00:56:08,088 --> 00:56:10,505 ♪ Whoa, whoa 1426 00:56:10,608 --> 00:56:13,128 ♪ You got less teeth and more tits ♪ 1427 00:56:13,231 --> 00:56:15,751 - We were living the life of being in a band, 1428 00:56:15,855 --> 00:56:17,512 and, I mean, that was everybody's focus. 1429 00:56:17,615 --> 00:56:20,480 There was no, like, going back to law school 1430 00:56:20,584 --> 00:56:21,516 when this is done. 1431 00:56:21,619 --> 00:56:23,207 Like, this is all we were doing. 1432 00:56:23,310 --> 00:56:24,898 I never went to college. 1433 00:56:25,002 --> 00:56:27,660 I mean, it's not like we had eggs in other baskets. 1434 00:56:27,763 --> 00:56:29,386 That was gonna be our lives. 1435 00:56:29,489 --> 00:56:31,974 - Never get poop on your creepers. 1436 00:56:32,078 --> 00:56:34,321 - We were always scrambling for money. 1437 00:56:34,425 --> 00:56:36,082 I bartended. 1438 00:56:36,185 --> 00:56:37,842 I bussed tables. 1439 00:56:37,946 --> 00:56:41,467 - I started go-go dancing in gay and mixed clubs 1440 00:56:41,570 --> 00:56:43,089 and babysitting too. 1441 00:56:43,192 --> 00:56:44,918 - I started tattooing. 1442 00:56:45,022 --> 00:56:46,472 I tattooed for 14 years. 1443 00:56:46,575 --> 00:56:47,990 [rock music] 1444 00:56:48,094 --> 00:56:49,785 - I tell you, man, those Lunachicks, 1445 00:56:49,889 --> 00:56:51,684 those are just, like, the most beautiful creatures 1446 00:56:51,787 --> 00:56:53,789 God has ever graced this planet with, man, 1447 00:56:53,893 --> 00:56:56,136 especially Squid, the bass player. 1448 00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:57,862 If I had to fall in love again, 1449 00:56:57,966 --> 00:57:01,452 that's who I would be in love with, I'll tell you what, man. 1450 00:57:01,556 --> 00:57:04,317 - Back then, the legends in your life are 1451 00:57:04,421 --> 00:57:06,837 your New York characters from the '70s. 1452 00:57:06,940 --> 00:57:10,288 And they had, all of them, become heroin addicts. 1453 00:57:10,392 --> 00:57:13,568 So by the time we're teenagers, 1454 00:57:13,671 --> 00:57:17,641 it was like, anything but heroin. 1455 00:57:17,744 --> 00:57:20,126 - ♪ I'm falling 1456 00:57:20,229 --> 00:57:23,094 - Except for those of us who just couldn't resist. 1457 00:57:23,198 --> 00:57:25,890 - ♪ I'm falling and there's no one to catch me ♪ 1458 00:57:25,994 --> 00:57:29,894 - I was using, more and more, in secret. 1459 00:57:29,998 --> 00:57:31,689 It was a secret until I couldn't keep it 1460 00:57:31,793 --> 00:57:34,623 a secret anymore. 1461 00:57:34,727 --> 00:57:37,902 - I remember busting Syd being high at rehearsals 1462 00:57:38,006 --> 00:57:39,386 and being like, you know, "I know you're high. 1463 00:57:39,490 --> 00:57:40,767 You better not do it again." 1464 00:57:40,871 --> 00:57:41,975 She'd be like, "No, no, I won't do it again. 1465 00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:43,080 I promise." 1466 00:57:43,183 --> 00:57:45,496 I had no idea what that was-- what it was about 1467 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:46,911 and how deep it was 1468 00:57:47,015 --> 00:57:48,844 and how much of a monster it is, 1469 00:57:48,948 --> 00:57:50,639 that addiction and that drug. 1470 00:57:50,743 --> 00:57:55,161 ♪ All you got, you're throwing it away ♪ 1471 00:57:55,264 --> 00:58:01,512 It was so painful, being so helpless-- 1472 00:58:01,616 --> 00:58:05,585 wanting to make her stop, not being able to, 1473 00:58:05,689 --> 00:58:07,760 being afraid she's gonna die. 1474 00:58:07,863 --> 00:58:11,073 ♪ Even if I loved you more, turn it into disdain ♪ 1475 00:58:11,177 --> 00:58:15,526 ♪ Even if the sun is shining, it's pouring acid rain ♪ 1476 00:58:15,630 --> 00:58:19,703 ♪ Can't hold on for one more day ♪ 1477 00:58:19,806 --> 00:58:23,361 - Me and Sindi had a hard falling out. 1478 00:58:23,465 --> 00:58:27,124 We stopped being friends for a long time. 1479 00:58:27,227 --> 00:58:30,886 It was hard, 'cause, like, Sindi was my sister. 1480 00:58:30,990 --> 00:58:34,718 - I had personal experience that nobody else had 1481 00:58:34,821 --> 00:58:38,135 of losing people close to me to drugs. 1482 00:58:38,238 --> 00:58:40,793 And, you know, I adored her. 1483 00:58:40,896 --> 00:58:44,313 And I saw that I was losing her, 1484 00:58:44,417 --> 00:58:46,764 that we were losing her. 1485 00:58:46,868 --> 00:58:51,044 So most of my anger came from sadness. 1486 00:58:51,148 --> 00:58:54,013 [rock music] 1487 00:58:54,116 --> 00:58:55,048 ♪ 1488 00:58:55,152 --> 00:58:57,568 - When we recorded "Pretty Ugly," 1489 00:58:57,672 --> 00:59:01,089 Sindi recorded her parts and then split. 1490 00:59:01,192 --> 00:59:02,987 She wasn't there much. 1491 00:59:03,091 --> 00:59:04,817 ♪ 1492 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,716 - I was very close to Sindi, 1493 00:59:07,820 --> 00:59:09,546 but I think she had a different agenda. 1494 00:59:09,649 --> 00:59:12,134 ♪ 1495 00:59:12,238 --> 00:59:15,241 - Being on tour was very different in the early days 1496 00:59:15,344 --> 00:59:16,449 than in the later days. 1497 00:59:16,553 --> 00:59:17,692 Bad mood. 1498 00:59:17,795 --> 00:59:18,796 People started to get a little bit more 1499 00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:20,591 snippy with each other. 1500 00:59:20,695 --> 00:59:23,698 I found that I was distancing myself 1501 00:59:23,801 --> 00:59:25,941 from the rest of the band more. 1502 00:59:26,045 --> 00:59:28,806 And there was this divide of 1503 00:59:28,910 --> 00:59:30,601 what they thought was important 1504 00:59:30,705 --> 00:59:32,396 and what I thought was important. 1505 00:59:32,499 --> 00:59:33,880 [cheers and applause] 1506 00:59:33,984 --> 00:59:36,296 I didn't care as much about succeeding, 1507 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:37,677 about making it. 1508 00:59:37,781 --> 00:59:40,128 I was still in it to have fun. 1509 00:59:41,612 --> 00:59:45,098 - We wanted to be better than we were the year before. 1510 00:59:45,202 --> 00:59:49,240 That was really important to all of us--most of us. 1511 00:59:49,344 --> 00:59:52,485 But I don't think it was as important to Sindi. 1512 00:59:52,589 --> 00:59:54,763 We started writing more complex riffs 1513 00:59:54,867 --> 00:59:57,835 and faster rhythms, and she couldn't keep up. 1514 00:59:57,939 --> 00:59:59,630 And it was a problem. 1515 00:59:59,734 --> 01:00:03,392 - ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 1516 01:00:03,496 --> 01:00:04,911 ♪ Oh, yeah 1517 01:00:05,015 --> 01:00:09,122 - They wanted me to tighten up my musical act, 1518 01:00:09,226 --> 01:00:13,748 and I didn't want to. 1519 01:00:13,851 --> 01:00:18,753 To me, it felt like they were looking for a reason 1520 01:00:18,856 --> 01:00:20,996 that the success wasn't coming. 1521 01:00:21,100 --> 01:00:25,829 And at some point, the finger was pointed at me. 1522 01:00:25,932 --> 01:00:29,280 I, fair enough, could be sloppy on stage. 1523 01:00:29,384 --> 01:00:34,665 I did not spend my free time noodling on the guitar, 1524 01:00:34,769 --> 01:00:38,945 because I thought I was in a punk rock band. 1525 01:00:39,049 --> 01:00:41,223 - So we said, either you put the effort in, 1526 01:00:41,327 --> 01:00:45,158 or you leave the band, and it's your choice. 1527 01:00:45,262 --> 01:00:49,646 I think she felt betrayed that we would give her an ultimatum, 1528 01:00:49,749 --> 01:00:52,476 because it was her band too. 1529 01:00:52,579 --> 01:00:55,168 It was heartbreaking. 1530 01:00:55,272 --> 01:00:57,964 - I cared about them all so much. 1531 01:00:58,068 --> 01:01:00,829 If I had believed I was holding us back, 1532 01:01:00,933 --> 01:01:03,418 I would have done whatever it took. 1533 01:01:03,521 --> 01:01:06,939 I just didn't believe there was a need for it. 1534 01:01:07,042 --> 01:01:08,837 - Sindi from the Lunachicks. 1535 01:01:08,941 --> 01:01:11,737 - I knew I was a great stage presence. 1536 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,843 I knew it wasn't me. 1537 01:01:14,947 --> 01:01:19,020 But if they were gonna insinuate that it was me, 1538 01:01:19,123 --> 01:01:24,439 any joy that was left then was stabbed in the heart. 1539 01:01:25,751 --> 01:01:29,444 So we all agreed to part ways. 1540 01:01:30,963 --> 01:01:34,967 It wasn't super amicable, 1541 01:01:35,070 --> 01:01:37,417 but they are really important to me. 1542 01:01:37,521 --> 01:01:39,937 They always were important to me. 1543 01:01:41,180 --> 01:01:44,217 Those girls are my lifelong sisters. 1544 01:01:44,321 --> 01:01:47,427 [rock music] 1545 01:01:47,531 --> 01:01:50,396 - So you guys are on the Iggy Pop tribute album. 1546 01:01:50,499 --> 01:01:52,018 all: Yes. 1547 01:01:52,122 --> 01:01:53,848 - There was a recording that we did 1548 01:01:53,951 --> 01:01:57,161 of "The Passenger," the Iggy Pop song. 1549 01:01:57,265 --> 01:01:58,507 ♪ 1550 01:01:58,611 --> 01:01:59,888 I just couldn't get there. 1551 01:01:59,992 --> 01:02:01,303 Like, I just--I was, like, 1552 01:02:01,407 --> 01:02:04,030 shooting coke or something crazy. 1553 01:02:04,134 --> 01:02:08,379 Every 15 minutes, I had to, like, fix. 1554 01:02:08,483 --> 01:02:11,106 I kept getting dressed and trying to leave the house. 1555 01:02:11,210 --> 01:02:12,832 And then I'd just be back on the couch 1556 01:02:12,936 --> 01:02:14,040 with a needle in my arm. 1557 01:02:14,144 --> 01:02:15,248 I never got to the studio. 1558 01:02:15,352 --> 01:02:16,318 I couldn't do it. 1559 01:02:16,422 --> 01:02:17,768 ♪ 1560 01:02:17,872 --> 01:02:20,840 - I think, in her mind, going on tour, 1561 01:02:20,944 --> 01:02:23,015 "I'm gonna kick it. 1562 01:02:23,118 --> 01:02:25,672 I'm gonna leave New York and stop." 1563 01:02:25,776 --> 01:02:26,984 She was drug sick 1564 01:02:27,088 --> 01:02:29,090 for the whole time we were in Japan. 1565 01:02:29,193 --> 01:02:33,784 And it's like, Squid-- like, we were in Japan. 1566 01:02:33,888 --> 01:02:37,339 We were in Japan, and you didn't even know it. 1567 01:02:37,443 --> 01:02:38,789 ♪ 1568 01:02:38,893 --> 01:02:40,964 - She had her awesome vintage car, 1569 01:02:41,067 --> 01:02:44,243 her '64 Chevy Nova. 1570 01:02:44,346 --> 01:02:45,347 ♪ 1571 01:02:45,451 --> 01:02:48,247 This one night, she was in a bad way, 1572 01:02:48,350 --> 01:02:51,008 and she's doing some kind of heroin-speed combo or-- 1573 01:02:51,112 --> 01:02:52,699 I don't know what she was doing. 1574 01:02:52,803 --> 01:02:55,841 She was picky, skinny, nervous. 1575 01:02:55,944 --> 01:02:58,326 It was bad. 1576 01:02:58,429 --> 01:03:00,259 I'm sitting in the front with her, 1577 01:03:00,362 --> 01:03:03,434 and we're going to get on the Brooklyn Bridge. 1578 01:03:03,538 --> 01:03:05,160 ♪ 1579 01:03:05,264 --> 01:03:09,095 There was, like, one of those concrete dividers. 1580 01:03:09,199 --> 01:03:12,340 She nodded out, hit the divider, 1581 01:03:12,443 --> 01:03:16,171 and the whole car bounced into the lane of-- 1582 01:03:16,275 --> 01:03:17,932 would have been oncoming traffic. 1583 01:03:18,035 --> 01:03:19,623 If there had been traffic, 1584 01:03:19,726 --> 01:03:20,866 if there had been any other cars, 1585 01:03:20,969 --> 01:03:22,868 we would be probably dead. 1586 01:03:22,971 --> 01:03:24,628 But somehow, it wasn't our time. 1587 01:03:24,731 --> 01:03:26,630 ♪ 1588 01:03:26,733 --> 01:03:29,288 - I called Syd's dad. 1589 01:03:29,391 --> 01:03:30,634 "Things are bad. 1590 01:03:30,737 --> 01:03:33,016 We have to save her." 1591 01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:35,570 - We called an intervention. 1592 01:03:35,673 --> 01:03:38,987 - It was a small group of us-- the band, Howie, 1593 01:03:39,091 --> 01:03:41,714 her sister, and her mom and her dad. 1594 01:03:41,818 --> 01:03:43,578 And you have to tell the person, 1595 01:03:43,681 --> 01:03:46,374 "We're out if you can't get your shit together." 1596 01:03:46,477 --> 01:03:47,789 ♪ 1597 01:03:47,893 --> 01:03:49,411 I didn't know at that time 1598 01:03:49,515 --> 01:03:51,413 if she was gonna walk out of the room, 1599 01:03:51,517 --> 01:03:53,346 and I would never see her again. 1600 01:03:55,038 --> 01:03:56,763 - I was so ready to go. 1601 01:03:56,867 --> 01:03:58,489 I was just like, get me the fuck out of here. 1602 01:03:58,593 --> 01:04:01,630 Like, I can't help myself. 1603 01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:05,358 I didn't want to lose everything. 1604 01:04:05,462 --> 01:04:07,809 I mean, I never cared about anything 1605 01:04:07,913 --> 01:04:09,915 as much as I cared about the band. 1606 01:04:10,018 --> 01:04:12,089 It was everything. 1607 01:04:12,193 --> 01:04:13,642 So they pulled me out. 1608 01:04:13,746 --> 01:04:15,921 They dropped me into rehab. 1609 01:04:16,024 --> 01:04:17,819 And I stayed clean after that, 1610 01:04:17,923 --> 01:04:20,063 and I've been clean ever since. 1611 01:04:23,445 --> 01:04:26,069 Um, ay-yi-yi-yi-yi. 1612 01:04:26,172 --> 01:04:27,967 Oh, this is where-- 1613 01:04:28,071 --> 01:04:30,211 something about this one. 1614 01:04:30,314 --> 01:04:32,109 - Which one? 1615 01:04:32,213 --> 01:04:33,248 - This one. - The deli? 1616 01:04:33,352 --> 01:04:34,767 - This one. - This building? 1617 01:04:34,871 --> 01:04:37,977 - Something like methadone clinic, something not cool? 1618 01:04:38,081 --> 01:04:40,600 - Well, that's your department. 1619 01:04:40,704 --> 01:04:41,774 - Something dark. - Something dark. 1620 01:04:41,878 --> 01:04:42,879 - Something dark. 1621 01:04:42,982 --> 01:04:44,846 - Something dark and ouchy. 1622 01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:47,228 - Oh, my God! - Oh, my God! 1623 01:04:47,331 --> 01:04:50,403 [indistinct chatter, laughter] 1624 01:05:03,658 --> 01:05:05,142 - Is that for me? 1625 01:05:05,246 --> 01:05:07,455 And it's got sprinkles! 1626 01:05:07,558 --> 01:05:10,803 Oh, my God, I just want to hug you again. 1627 01:05:10,907 --> 01:05:12,978 - I am so hungry. 1628 01:05:13,081 --> 01:05:14,669 Oh, thank God. 1629 01:05:14,772 --> 01:05:17,154 [popping] both: Oh! 1630 01:05:17,258 --> 01:05:21,124 - Hey! [indistinct chatter] 1631 01:05:21,227 --> 01:05:24,472 - There's something in the air right now, in this place. 1632 01:05:24,575 --> 01:05:25,473 You know what I mean? 1633 01:05:25,576 --> 01:05:28,200 Like, you know, seeing everybody, and... 1634 01:05:28,303 --> 01:05:31,134 there's been a lot of talk. 1635 01:05:31,237 --> 01:05:33,515 You know, I'm feeling a real buzz. 1636 01:05:36,242 --> 01:05:37,278 - Squid. 1637 01:05:37,381 --> 01:05:40,384 - Really loud, like 11, right? 1638 01:05:40,488 --> 01:05:43,284 - ♪ And if I don't pick up the phone ♪ 1639 01:05:43,387 --> 01:05:44,595 Ha! 1640 01:05:44,699 --> 01:05:46,425 "Luxury Problem," I felt like that was 1641 01:05:46,528 --> 01:05:51,637 a really powerful album as musicians and songwriting. 1642 01:05:51,740 --> 01:05:53,777 - We had grown a lot. 1643 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,606 We were finely tuned. 1644 01:05:55,710 --> 01:05:57,539 We played our instruments a thousand times better 1645 01:05:57,643 --> 01:05:59,990 than we had when we began. 1646 01:06:00,094 --> 01:06:02,544 - ♪ I can't see addicts anymore ♪ 1647 01:06:02,648 --> 01:06:05,685 - That album, "Luxury Problem," is fantastic. 1648 01:06:05,789 --> 01:06:08,654 I told my band, you know, we ought to get those guys 1649 01:06:08,757 --> 01:06:10,311 and bring them on tour with us 1650 01:06:10,414 --> 01:06:12,209 so we could spread the joy. 1651 01:06:12,313 --> 01:06:14,625 [laughs] Spread the filth. 1652 01:06:14,729 --> 01:06:16,800 [laughs] 1653 01:06:16,903 --> 01:06:18,284 To go out with two bands 1654 01:06:18,388 --> 01:06:21,287 like the Go-Go's and the Lunachicks together, 1655 01:06:21,391 --> 01:06:23,427 I mean, that's a marriage made in heaven. 1656 01:06:23,531 --> 01:06:25,567 We had so much fun with them on tour. 1657 01:06:25,671 --> 01:06:28,087 It was like just a gang of girls hanging out, 1658 01:06:28,191 --> 01:06:30,055 getting into trouble. 1659 01:06:30,158 --> 01:06:32,195 We all understood each other. 1660 01:06:32,298 --> 01:06:35,370 We--we got the humor. 1661 01:06:35,474 --> 01:06:37,752 - Lunachicks! [cheers and applause] 1662 01:06:37,855 --> 01:06:40,203 - And they really cared about keeping humor 1663 01:06:40,306 --> 01:06:43,137 in everything that they did. 1664 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,001 But let's face it, I don't know if America 1665 01:06:45,104 --> 01:06:46,933 was completely ready for them. 1666 01:06:47,037 --> 01:06:50,247 [rock music] 1667 01:06:50,351 --> 01:06:52,939 - You know, back then, if you're a girl band going out, 1668 01:06:53,043 --> 01:06:56,564 it was certainly gonna be a tougher audience. 1669 01:06:56,667 --> 01:06:59,705 - At some shows, there were knuckle-dragging idiots 1670 01:06:59,808 --> 01:07:01,672 chanting, "Show us your tits." 1671 01:07:01,776 --> 01:07:03,467 It's fucked, you know? 1672 01:07:03,571 --> 01:07:06,574 And so we saw 'em have to deal with that. 1673 01:07:06,677 --> 01:07:08,817 - Every show, there's some dick in the audience, 1674 01:07:08,921 --> 01:07:09,956 "Show us your tits." 1675 01:07:10,060 --> 01:07:11,544 Like, it's just a given. 1676 01:07:11,648 --> 01:07:13,132 That happens every show. 1677 01:07:13,236 --> 01:07:16,204 But these were arenas, and hundreds, 1678 01:07:16,308 --> 01:07:18,689 if not thousands of guys, started chanting, 1679 01:07:18,793 --> 01:07:20,760 "Show us your tits!" 1680 01:07:20,864 --> 01:07:23,073 - It's hard enough to be out there doing it, 1681 01:07:23,177 --> 01:07:24,764 and then to have that on top of it, 1682 01:07:24,868 --> 01:07:27,802 it was very hard on your psyche. 1683 01:07:27,905 --> 01:07:30,253 - The traditionally male-dominated Warped Tour 1684 01:07:30,356 --> 01:07:32,117 has added five bands 1685 01:07:32,220 --> 01:07:34,222 with female members to this year's lineup. 1686 01:07:34,326 --> 01:07:36,638 - ♪ You think that you are hot stuff ♪ 1687 01:07:36,742 --> 01:07:39,020 ♪ Think that you're pretty cool ♪ 1688 01:07:39,124 --> 01:07:40,504 - On the Warped Tour, 1689 01:07:40,608 --> 01:07:43,404 Blink 182 was one of the headliners. 1690 01:07:43,507 --> 01:07:45,544 They just thought, "Oh, this is a funny joke. 1691 01:07:45,647 --> 01:07:47,994 Like, which girl are we gonna get pregnant tonight?" 1692 01:07:48,098 --> 01:07:49,548 And it was constant. 1693 01:07:49,651 --> 01:07:51,481 - "Suck our [bleep]. Show us your tits. 1694 01:07:51,584 --> 01:07:53,759 We want more, you know, [bleep]." 1695 01:07:53,862 --> 01:07:55,071 - And so, eventually, 1696 01:07:55,174 --> 01:07:58,039 Theo started giving them shit on stage. 1697 01:07:58,143 --> 01:07:59,799 - We're like, you know what? That's not funny. [bleep] you. 1698 01:07:59,903 --> 01:08:01,836 - The Lunachicks didn't like our boob comments. 1699 01:08:01,939 --> 01:08:02,630 They didn't like our band. 1700 01:08:02,733 --> 01:08:04,080 The Lunachicks did not like our band. 1701 01:08:04,183 --> 01:08:06,185 - This song is for all the girls. 1702 01:08:06,289 --> 01:08:07,635 [cheers and applause] 1703 01:08:07,738 --> 01:08:09,292 And it's called "Knuckle Sandwich," 1704 01:08:09,395 --> 01:08:11,673 'cause don't take fuckin' shit from anybody. 1705 01:08:11,777 --> 01:08:14,400 ♪ Don't want to hear it, don't want to hear it ♪ 1706 01:08:14,504 --> 01:08:16,540 ♪ Don't want to hear it, no, no, no, no ♪ 1707 01:08:16,644 --> 01:08:20,475 - We had a real heavy guy-band thing going on. 1708 01:08:20,579 --> 01:08:23,651 And being gay, I wasn't enamored 1709 01:08:23,754 --> 01:08:26,964 by all the guys and all the crew. 1710 01:08:27,068 --> 01:08:28,207 You know, it's nothing but guys, 1711 01:08:28,311 --> 01:08:30,002 guys, guys, guys, guys. 1712 01:08:30,106 --> 01:08:32,694 And the girls addressed me and said, 1713 01:08:32,798 --> 01:08:34,420 "We want to make sure that you're cool. 1714 01:08:34,524 --> 01:08:37,354 You seem to be, like, annoyed with the boy bands." 1715 01:08:37,458 --> 01:08:39,563 And I was like, "No, man, I'm cool." 1716 01:08:39,667 --> 01:08:42,221 You know, I was in the band for life. 1717 01:08:42,325 --> 01:08:44,637 You know, I was--I was a lifer. 1718 01:08:46,777 --> 01:08:49,125 But then there was a question brought up 1719 01:08:49,228 --> 01:08:51,368 at the end of our last album. 1720 01:08:51,472 --> 01:08:53,059 It's like, "Oh, we want to adjust 1721 01:08:53,163 --> 01:08:54,751 the songwriting credits." 1722 01:08:54,854 --> 01:08:56,753 Oh, really? 1723 01:08:56,856 --> 01:08:58,548 - Put your mask on. 1724 01:08:58,651 --> 01:09:00,170 Chip. 1725 01:09:00,274 --> 01:09:02,828 - We were very "all for one and one for all." 1726 01:09:02,931 --> 01:09:04,519 So when we first started recording, you know, 1727 01:09:04,623 --> 01:09:05,831 all of the rights to everything 1728 01:09:05,934 --> 01:09:06,901 were shared equally. 1729 01:09:07,004 --> 01:09:07,936 It was a joke. 1730 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,628 I mean, 3/4 of what? 1731 01:09:09,731 --> 01:09:10,836 [laughs] Nothing. 1732 01:09:10,939 --> 01:09:13,287 A song about my dead hamster? 1733 01:09:13,390 --> 01:09:16,497 As we grew up, we began to write separately 1734 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:21,053 rather than building music together as a group. 1735 01:09:21,157 --> 01:09:24,988 - I had said I would like some kind of acknowledgment 1736 01:09:25,091 --> 01:09:28,509 or some extra credit for some of the things that I've done. 1737 01:09:28,612 --> 01:09:30,752 Basically, I was asking for 1738 01:09:30,856 --> 01:09:32,754 a higher percentage of writers' share. 1739 01:09:34,066 --> 01:09:35,343 - All right. 1740 01:09:35,447 --> 01:09:37,518 Well, that puts me at the worst level. 1741 01:09:37,621 --> 01:09:39,209 So now you're gonna make me 1742 01:09:39,313 --> 01:09:42,385 the least paid person in the band? 1743 01:09:42,488 --> 01:09:46,734 You know, being the drummer, I--I don't write songs. 1744 01:09:46,837 --> 01:09:49,219 But if I play behind a guitarist, 1745 01:09:49,323 --> 01:09:51,256 I can influence what they're doing. 1746 01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:54,362 Like, you're coming in with A-A-A, B-B-B, 1747 01:09:54,466 --> 01:09:57,952 and I'm going, hey, let's stop here, 1748 01:09:58,055 --> 01:10:01,058 and I'm gonna do a fill, and now let's double time it. 1749 01:10:01,162 --> 01:10:03,406 And I would always write the intros, 1750 01:10:03,509 --> 01:10:06,271 the bridges, the outros. 1751 01:10:06,374 --> 01:10:08,204 - I guess I stoked a fire 1752 01:10:08,307 --> 01:10:10,551 that I didn't even realize existed, 1753 01:10:10,654 --> 01:10:13,416 but I hit a nerve, and the whole thing 1754 01:10:13,519 --> 01:10:15,383 kind of just blew up. 1755 01:10:15,487 --> 01:10:18,593 Chip stood up, maybe overturned a table, 1756 01:10:18,697 --> 01:10:20,733 called me every name in the book, 1757 01:10:20,837 --> 01:10:22,010 stormed out of the room. 1758 01:10:22,114 --> 01:10:23,840 - Yeah, we are crackers. 1759 01:10:23,943 --> 01:10:26,946 - Chip was, to me, my partner in crime. 1760 01:10:27,050 --> 01:10:29,949 I could always count on Chip to go out after the show 1761 01:10:30,053 --> 01:10:32,400 and get into trouble-- like, go see the town, 1762 01:10:32,504 --> 01:10:34,368 stay up all night. 1763 01:10:34,471 --> 01:10:36,611 Chip was like... 1764 01:10:36,715 --> 01:10:37,612 [sighs] 1765 01:10:37,716 --> 01:10:40,374 She was like your older brother. 1766 01:10:40,477 --> 01:10:42,824 But at that moment, we didn't see 1767 01:10:42,928 --> 01:10:45,862 how we could go on tour with each other. 1768 01:10:47,346 --> 01:10:51,385 - It was maybe just a ridiculous moment. 1769 01:10:51,488 --> 01:10:54,664 I loved my time in the band. 1770 01:10:54,767 --> 01:10:57,183 I would not hesitate to play with the girls. 1771 01:10:57,287 --> 01:10:58,323 Oh, no, no, no. 1772 01:10:58,426 --> 01:11:01,153 I have dreams. 1773 01:11:01,257 --> 01:11:05,813 This is the unfinished love affair. 1774 01:11:05,916 --> 01:11:11,508 - ♪ Isn't it hard when you're spoiled rotten ♪ 1775 01:11:11,612 --> 01:11:17,652 ♪ Got another luxury problem 1776 01:11:17,756 --> 01:11:24,728 ♪ Problem 1777 01:11:24,832 --> 01:11:26,074 Whoo! 1778 01:11:26,178 --> 01:11:29,354 [rock music] 1779 01:11:29,457 --> 01:11:31,148 ♪ Got a roof over my head 1780 01:11:31,252 --> 01:11:33,012 ♪ Got a tub and a bed 1781 01:11:33,116 --> 01:11:35,152 ♪ Yet my life is on the brink 1782 01:11:35,256 --> 01:11:37,500 ♪ Yeah, my life, it fucking stinks ♪ 1783 01:11:37,603 --> 01:11:40,606 - We were all so proud of the last album we just made. 1784 01:11:40,710 --> 01:11:43,402 We were touring with the Buzzcocks. 1785 01:11:43,506 --> 01:11:45,335 We spent a month in Australia. 1786 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,062 Like, we were having a great time. 1787 01:11:48,165 --> 01:11:51,548 But I also started to feel like 1788 01:11:51,652 --> 01:11:53,274 I'd rather quit while we were ahead. 1789 01:11:53,378 --> 01:11:54,827 ♪ 1790 01:11:54,931 --> 01:11:59,107 Summer of 2000, Helen was drumming on that tour. 1791 01:11:59,211 --> 01:12:01,006 ♪ 1792 01:12:01,109 --> 01:12:03,353 Theo, Syd, and I were talking about our future. 1793 01:12:03,457 --> 01:12:04,803 The question came up, you know, well, 1794 01:12:04,906 --> 01:12:07,737 how much longer are we gonna do this? 1795 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:12,500 And I said, "I think I'm ready to go." 1796 01:12:12,604 --> 01:12:15,676 And Theo, surprisingly, said, "Yeah, me too. 1797 01:12:15,779 --> 01:12:18,437 I feel exactly the same." 1798 01:12:18,541 --> 01:12:20,336 And Syd was like, "Wait, 1799 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,372 what are you guys talking about?" 1800 01:12:24,340 --> 01:12:26,445 - I never thought it would really end. 1801 01:12:27,515 --> 01:12:29,379 It totally fucked me up. 1802 01:12:29,483 --> 01:12:30,415 It was the first time in my whole life-- 1803 01:12:30,518 --> 01:12:32,313 'cause we started so young-- 1804 01:12:32,417 --> 01:12:33,970 that I was, like, without that. 1805 01:12:34,073 --> 01:12:37,042 I was like, what the fuck am I supposed to do now? 1806 01:12:37,145 --> 01:12:38,664 We made this thing. 1807 01:12:38,768 --> 01:12:40,942 And there were other bands that make more money. 1808 01:12:41,046 --> 01:12:42,599 There are bands that sell more records. 1809 01:12:42,703 --> 01:12:44,843 But nobody could be us. 1810 01:12:44,946 --> 01:12:46,741 We were the best version of us. 1811 01:12:46,845 --> 01:12:48,122 That sounds so stupid saying it. 1812 01:12:48,225 --> 01:12:50,780 But it was, like, this feeling like we couldn't be outdone 1813 01:12:50,883 --> 01:12:53,438 because we were just being who we were, 1814 01:12:53,541 --> 01:12:54,991 and that felt perfect. 1815 01:12:55,094 --> 01:12:59,444 And I think I have always wanted to feel that again. 1816 01:12:59,547 --> 01:13:00,997 [rock music] 1817 01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:01,998 - Hi, everybody. 1818 01:13:02,101 --> 01:13:04,172 [cheers and applause] 1819 01:13:04,276 --> 01:13:07,003 Tonight we're going to be celebrating the Lunachicks catalog. 1820 01:13:09,419 --> 01:13:12,111 Feel free to sing along. 1821 01:13:12,215 --> 01:13:19,084 ♪ 1822 01:13:38,103 --> 01:13:42,245 - It wasn't that long after we broke up, 1823 01:13:42,348 --> 01:13:45,075 I found out I was really sick. 1824 01:13:45,179 --> 01:13:46,836 I had cancer, 1825 01:13:46,939 --> 01:13:50,633 and I needed emergency surgery. 1826 01:13:50,736 --> 01:13:52,324 I went into the hospital, 1827 01:13:52,428 --> 01:13:56,639 and Gina and Theo were there with me. 1828 01:13:56,742 --> 01:14:01,126 And I, like, had this moment where I just-- 1829 01:14:01,229 --> 01:14:06,580 you know, who fucking cares how many records you sold? 1830 01:14:06,683 --> 01:14:08,754 I've had, like, this fantastic life 1831 01:14:08,858 --> 01:14:11,826 that money can't buy, you know, 1832 01:14:11,930 --> 01:14:14,035 the kind of things that we did 1833 01:14:14,139 --> 01:14:16,141 and the times that we had together. 1834 01:14:16,244 --> 01:14:21,146 The fact that they were there with me was-- 1835 01:14:21,249 --> 01:14:24,460 like, I got--I got, that, like, we--we won. 1836 01:14:32,398 --> 01:14:34,539 - Oh, my God. - Oh. 1837 01:14:34,642 --> 01:14:36,057 [horn honking] 1838 01:14:36,161 --> 01:14:39,682 [laughing] 1839 01:14:39,785 --> 01:14:41,511 - Attack of the 50-foot woman! 1840 01:14:41,615 --> 01:14:44,031 [cheers, laughter] 1841 01:14:44,134 --> 01:14:46,792 - Oh, my God, Gina! 1842 01:14:46,896 --> 01:14:49,864 [laughter] 1843 01:14:53,178 --> 01:14:54,662 - Oh, that's some perspective, isn't it? 1844 01:14:54,766 --> 01:14:55,698 - It's a little too much perspective. 1845 01:14:55,801 --> 01:14:57,389 - A little too much perspective. 1846 01:14:57,493 --> 01:14:58,666 - [laughs] 1847 01:15:00,081 --> 01:15:03,015 [engine rumbling] 1848 01:15:07,157 --> 01:15:09,643 - I came to LA in 1997. 1849 01:15:09,746 --> 01:15:12,749 I have no history of drug use here, 1850 01:15:12,853 --> 01:15:15,372 so it was like a clean slate. 1851 01:15:15,476 --> 01:15:17,892 I'm coming up on 20 years of recovery off of heroin, 1852 01:15:17,996 --> 01:15:20,032 off of alcohol, off of pills. 1853 01:15:20,136 --> 01:15:21,931 Yes, my dear. 1854 01:15:22,034 --> 01:15:23,795 It was really important to me 1855 01:15:23,898 --> 01:15:26,591 to just not hide from who I am. 1856 01:15:26,694 --> 01:15:28,316 Hey, everybody, you're here with Becky Wreck today. 1857 01:15:28,420 --> 01:15:29,525 Guess what we're making. 1858 01:15:29,628 --> 01:15:31,768 Carne motherfucking asada! 1859 01:15:31,872 --> 01:15:32,631 Yeah! 1860 01:15:32,735 --> 01:15:35,013 I'm a private chef now. 1861 01:15:35,116 --> 01:15:37,981 You know, I've always felt the anti-queer vibe 1862 01:15:38,085 --> 01:15:41,398 from people, but now I feel the ageism. 1863 01:15:41,502 --> 01:15:43,228 I mean, I never used face cream. 1864 01:15:43,331 --> 01:15:44,505 I never used earplugs. 1865 01:15:44,609 --> 01:15:46,334 I mean, all the things I never did, 1866 01:15:46,438 --> 01:15:49,752 they take--it shows, you know, 1867 01:15:49,855 --> 01:15:50,718 but I mean, whatever. 1868 01:15:50,822 --> 01:15:51,857 What do I care? 1869 01:15:51,961 --> 01:15:54,135 My history of my life is on my face. 1870 01:15:54,239 --> 01:15:57,138 I'm still here, and I'm still rocking. 1871 01:16:03,213 --> 01:16:05,699 - I've got a house in the country, 1872 01:16:05,802 --> 01:16:07,459 in Pennsylvania, 1873 01:16:07,563 --> 01:16:11,359 and I maintain a 3-acre property. 1874 01:16:12,809 --> 01:16:15,743 I have a job, a loving wife, 1875 01:16:15,847 --> 01:16:18,781 and I got my drums in the barn. 1876 01:16:18,884 --> 01:16:20,990 Well, you see the beard. 1877 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,305 I grew up in a time 1878 01:16:26,409 --> 01:16:29,067 when you really didn't come out like that. 1879 01:16:30,516 --> 01:16:33,174 Now kids are coming out as trans. 1880 01:16:33,278 --> 01:16:34,590 You know, it's like, for me, 1881 01:16:34,693 --> 01:16:37,351 it's like I had to wait my whole life. 1882 01:16:37,454 --> 01:16:40,561 You know, people have always told me, "Chip, you're a dude. 1883 01:16:40,665 --> 01:16:42,356 You're a dude." 1884 01:16:42,459 --> 01:16:45,601 So now I'm enjoying this, you know? 1885 01:16:45,704 --> 01:16:47,430 I gotta tell you, the testosterone thing 1886 01:16:47,533 --> 01:16:49,087 is pretty fucking cool. 1887 01:16:49,190 --> 01:16:51,503 [laughs] 1888 01:16:51,986 --> 01:16:53,712 - I work as a makeup artist now 1889 01:16:53,816 --> 01:16:55,714 in the fashion industry. 1890 01:16:57,129 --> 01:17:00,167 Being a woman who's aging, it's not easy. 1891 01:17:00,270 --> 01:17:02,514 And then coming from that industry, 1892 01:17:02,618 --> 01:17:04,758 I think it makes it even worse. 1893 01:17:04,861 --> 01:17:06,449 I feel more and more comfortable about it 1894 01:17:06,552 --> 01:17:07,795 every day, but still, 1895 01:17:07,899 --> 01:17:10,487 I'm working on so much to feel good. 1896 01:17:10,591 --> 01:17:12,282 - Do you have any red lipsticks? 1897 01:17:12,386 --> 01:17:13,663 - Of course. 1898 01:17:13,767 --> 01:17:17,494 And I also want to tell other women that it's OK 1899 01:17:17,598 --> 01:17:19,911 and tell my daughter that it's OK. 1900 01:17:20,014 --> 01:17:22,189 You don't have to be a Barbie doll. 1901 01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,331 It's so hard with everything that we're fed, 1902 01:17:26,434 --> 01:17:29,679 still, to really believe that. 1903 01:17:33,269 --> 01:17:35,064 - My single came out, 1904 01:17:35,167 --> 01:17:38,895 and I am preparing for the music video. 1905 01:17:38,999 --> 01:17:41,001 I have two dancers, um, 1906 01:17:41,104 --> 01:17:44,970 and I am making these masks for them to wear. 1907 01:17:45,419 --> 01:17:48,249 The hardest part about being an artist or a musician 1908 01:17:48,353 --> 01:17:51,011 is having to sell your personal self. 1909 01:17:51,114 --> 01:17:52,737 I don't have the personality. 1910 01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,946 It's not who I am. 1911 01:17:55,049 --> 01:17:58,432 This is who I am, you know, what I make. 1912 01:17:58,535 --> 01:18:01,021 Would you be scared if you saw this? 1913 01:18:01,124 --> 01:18:03,609 - ♪ Break the rules 1914 01:18:03,713 --> 01:18:06,716 - Only 1% out of all the billions 1915 01:18:06,820 --> 01:18:09,512 of incredibly talented artists out there 1916 01:18:09,615 --> 01:18:12,929 probably make a living doing art. 1917 01:18:13,033 --> 01:18:17,416 So I do resent the struggle of always being broke 1918 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,695 and always trying to figure out, what am I doing? 1919 01:18:19,798 --> 01:18:21,144 This is crazy--I'm too old 1920 01:18:21,248 --> 01:18:22,974 to be piecemealing my life together, 1921 01:18:23,077 --> 01:18:24,665 and I should have a real job. 1922 01:18:24,769 --> 01:18:27,357 But that's just not me. 1923 01:18:27,461 --> 01:18:30,188 I've never stopped creating. 1924 01:18:30,291 --> 01:18:31,776 ♪ 1925 01:18:31,879 --> 01:18:34,675 For me, if I stopped, I would probably die. 1926 01:18:34,779 --> 01:18:36,746 ♪ 1927 01:18:36,850 --> 01:18:39,680 [upbeat music] 1928 01:18:39,784 --> 01:18:41,406 ♪ 1929 01:18:41,509 --> 01:18:44,961 - It's the last day of business of my restaurant 1930 01:18:45,065 --> 01:18:47,446 that I opened in 2005. 1931 01:18:47,550 --> 01:18:50,933 This was my career after my music career. 1932 01:18:51,416 --> 01:18:53,142 Our lease expired, and our neighborhood is 1933 01:18:53,245 --> 01:18:55,454 turning a little corporate corner. 1934 01:18:55,558 --> 01:18:58,906 So this will be, like, a BMW showroom or something. 1935 01:19:00,390 --> 01:19:02,668 I feel a lot of things. 1936 01:19:02,772 --> 01:19:05,533 This whole identity just is dissolving 1937 01:19:05,637 --> 01:19:07,743 around me, you know? 1938 01:19:07,846 --> 01:19:10,435 I kind of feel like it's me again. 1939 01:19:10,538 --> 01:19:12,126 all: Sydney! Sydney! 1940 01:19:12,230 --> 01:19:14,991 - I really feel artistic again. 1941 01:19:15,095 --> 01:19:16,510 I feel creative again. 1942 01:19:16,613 --> 01:19:18,167 It's, like, rushing at me, 1943 01:19:18,270 --> 01:19:20,859 like these football players, like, charging, 1944 01:19:20,963 --> 01:19:22,758 you know, on some play. 1945 01:19:22,861 --> 01:19:24,656 I don't know anything about football. 1946 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,071 Oof. 1947 01:19:26,175 --> 01:19:28,073 Oh, my God, you can see the dust flying. 1948 01:19:29,695 --> 01:19:31,801 - Hello, WFMU listeners. 1949 01:19:31,905 --> 01:19:33,182 This is the "Rock and Roller Derby" show. 1950 01:19:33,285 --> 01:19:35,287 I am Suzy Hotrod, your host. 1951 01:19:35,391 --> 01:19:39,222 - [musical buzzing] 1952 01:19:39,326 --> 01:19:41,293 ♪ Za-za-za-za 1953 01:19:41,397 --> 01:19:42,501 [guitar playing] 1954 01:19:42,605 --> 01:19:45,125 - I think I'm gonna stick with my promise 1955 01:19:45,228 --> 01:19:47,990 that every week until the Lunachicks reunion shows 1956 01:19:48,093 --> 01:19:50,061 in November, I'm gonna play a Lunachicks song, 1957 01:19:50,164 --> 01:19:51,821 because I love that band so much. 1958 01:19:51,925 --> 01:19:55,342 [rock music] 1959 01:19:55,445 --> 01:19:56,757 - It took us a few years to get it together. 1960 01:19:56,861 --> 01:19:58,034 - ♪ Bad, bad man 1961 01:19:58,138 --> 01:20:00,796 ♪ Bad, bad man, bad, bad man 1962 01:20:00,899 --> 01:20:03,729 - And then, of course, we got shut down by the pandemic. 1963 01:20:03,833 --> 01:20:06,698 ♪ 1964 01:20:06,802 --> 01:20:08,734 But we're finally ready to play. 1965 01:20:08,838 --> 01:20:11,565 ♪ 1966 01:20:11,668 --> 01:20:14,361 - Hello, Cleveland. 1967 01:20:14,464 --> 01:20:16,708 - Check, check, check, check, check. 1968 01:20:16,812 --> 01:20:19,607 ♪ Ooh, yeah 1969 01:20:19,711 --> 01:20:26,545 ♪ 1970 01:20:26,649 --> 01:20:28,754 - Michael! 1971 01:20:28,858 --> 01:20:31,309 - Hi, how are you? - Hi. 1972 01:20:31,412 --> 01:20:33,069 Hi, hi, hi. 1973 01:20:33,173 --> 01:20:34,105 - Wow. 1974 01:20:34,208 --> 01:20:36,590 - Wow, you're, uh-- you guys are old. 1975 01:20:36,693 --> 01:20:38,903 [laughter] 1976 01:20:39,006 --> 01:20:40,870 - Good, good. 1977 01:20:40,974 --> 01:20:41,906 Good, good. 1978 01:20:42,009 --> 01:20:45,668 Yes, we have arrived, 1979 01:20:45,771 --> 01:20:47,773 32 years later. 1980 01:20:47,877 --> 01:20:50,742 [cheering, laughter] 1981 01:20:50,846 --> 01:20:53,779 [rock music] 1982 01:20:53,883 --> 01:20:58,819 ♪ 1983 01:20:58,923 --> 01:21:00,372 How are those knees holding up? 1984 01:21:00,476 --> 01:21:01,580 - Not. - No? 1985 01:21:01,684 --> 01:21:04,929 ♪ 1986 01:21:05,032 --> 01:21:06,585 OK, let's get up. Sorry. 1987 01:21:06,689 --> 01:21:07,793 - [groans] 1988 01:21:07,897 --> 01:21:09,416 [laughter] 1989 01:21:09,519 --> 01:21:12,143 - [singing indistinctly] 1990 01:21:12,246 --> 01:21:14,386 - We continued working on the book. 1991 01:21:14,490 --> 01:21:16,216 Book is done. 1992 01:21:16,319 --> 01:21:18,459 ♪ 1993 01:21:18,563 --> 01:21:20,876 The title of the book is "Fallopian Rhapsody." 1994 01:21:20,979 --> 01:21:23,982 It's named after their song. 1995 01:21:24,086 --> 01:21:25,604 Finally, it's actually here. 1996 01:21:25,708 --> 01:21:26,951 - You guys, we have a book. 1997 01:21:27,054 --> 01:21:28,780 It's so crazy! 1998 01:21:28,884 --> 01:21:32,025 ♪ 1999 01:21:32,128 --> 01:21:33,992 - ♪ Shake, shake, shake 2000 01:21:34,096 --> 01:21:34,959 [blows raspberry] 2001 01:21:35,062 --> 01:21:35,994 [laughter] 2002 01:21:36,098 --> 01:21:39,170 - [singing indistinctly] 2003 01:21:39,273 --> 01:21:46,211 ♪ 2004 01:21:48,213 --> 01:21:49,559 - We're ending there. 2005 01:21:49,663 --> 01:21:51,941 ♪ 2006 01:21:53,943 --> 01:21:59,190 - I'm so psyched to get on stage with my best friends, 2007 01:21:59,293 --> 01:22:01,951 who are so kickass and remarkable. 2008 01:22:02,055 --> 01:22:05,230 And I couldn't be more proud to be on stage, 2009 01:22:05,334 --> 01:22:07,646 kicking it and playing rock 'n' roll, 2010 01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:09,752 because, come on, 2011 01:22:09,855 --> 01:22:11,616 it's the funnest thing in the world. 2012 01:22:11,719 --> 01:22:12,720 - OK? 2013 01:22:12,824 --> 01:22:14,584 - [vocalizing] 2014 01:22:14,688 --> 01:22:16,310 - Years in the making. 2015 01:22:16,414 --> 01:22:17,725 - Yeah! 2016 01:22:17,829 --> 01:22:19,486 We made it. 2017 01:22:19,589 --> 01:22:20,936 - It's the Grog Shop. 2018 01:22:21,039 --> 01:22:23,386 - Grog show! - The Grog Shop. 2019 01:22:23,490 --> 01:22:24,663 - [laughs] 2020 01:22:32,671 --> 01:22:34,639 - Love you. 2021 01:22:34,742 --> 01:22:37,642 [cheers and applause] 2022 01:22:38,919 --> 01:22:40,265 - Ready? 2023 01:22:40,369 --> 01:22:42,750 - We're gonna go in there and fucking kill it. 2024 01:22:42,854 --> 01:22:46,030 [rock music] 2025 01:22:46,133 --> 01:22:49,240 [cheers and applause] 2026 01:22:49,343 --> 01:22:56,040 ♪ 2027 01:22:56,143 --> 01:22:59,629 [suspenseful drumming] 2028 01:22:59,733 --> 01:23:02,563 [cheers and applause] 2029 01:23:02,667 --> 01:23:07,741 ♪ 2030 01:23:07,844 --> 01:23:10,778 [rock music] 2031 01:23:10,882 --> 01:23:17,751 ♪ 2032 01:24:05,937 --> 01:24:09,044 [cheers and applause] 2033 01:24:10,252 --> 01:24:17,362 - ♪ You're a 2034 01:24:17,466 --> 01:24:20,365 ♪ Mental case, 'bout time I smash your face ♪ 2035 01:24:20,469 --> 01:24:22,505 ♪ Got a habit of stepping out of line ♪ 2036 01:24:22,609 --> 01:24:24,507 ♪ Oh, yeah, well, here comes your time ♪ 2037 01:24:24,611 --> 01:24:27,786 ♪ You're a damn disgrace, an insult to the human race ♪ 2038 01:24:27,890 --> 01:24:30,065 ♪ Try and make me feel bad all the time ♪ 2039 01:24:30,168 --> 01:24:32,619 ♪ Good thing you're not my sign ♪ 2040 01:24:32,722 --> 01:24:35,035 ♪ Oh, can't have me 2041 01:24:35,139 --> 01:24:37,520 ♪ Can't have me 2042 01:24:37,624 --> 01:24:39,212 ♪ You always want what you can't have ♪ 2043 01:24:39,315 --> 01:24:41,421 ♪ And, baby, you can't have me ♪ 2044 01:24:41,524 --> 01:24:47,427 ♪ 2045 01:24:47,530 --> 01:24:48,842 ♪ You're 2046 01:24:48,945 --> 01:24:51,120 - Getting to play together for the first time, 2047 01:24:51,224 --> 01:24:52,949 talk a little bit about what that was like 2048 01:24:53,053 --> 01:24:55,055 to be together again on the stage. 2049 01:24:55,159 --> 01:24:58,438 - ♪ A bleeding heart 2050 01:24:58,541 --> 01:25:00,716 ♪ Not even worth a fart 2051 01:25:00,819 --> 01:25:03,063 ♪ Got the worst halitosis that I've smelled ♪ 2052 01:25:03,167 --> 01:25:04,892 ♪ You can just go to hell 2053 01:25:04,996 --> 01:25:06,653 - It's like another world. 2054 01:25:06,756 --> 01:25:09,414 Like, instead of we had something to prove, 2055 01:25:09,518 --> 01:25:13,315 it's like people wanted to like us. 2056 01:25:13,418 --> 01:25:14,902 - It was a completely different 2057 01:25:15,006 --> 01:25:17,319 fucking universe out there. 2058 01:25:17,422 --> 01:25:20,598 A world where everybody wants you to win. 2059 01:25:20,701 --> 01:25:27,605 ♪ 2060 01:25:32,196 --> 01:25:34,232 - ♪ You can't have me 2061 01:25:34,336 --> 01:25:38,029 ♪ Can't have me, can't have me ♪ 2062 01:25:38,133 --> 01:25:40,238 ♪ Always want what you can't have ♪ 2063 01:25:40,342 --> 01:25:44,139 ♪ Can't have me, can't have me ♪ 2064 01:25:44,242 --> 01:25:46,658 ♪ Can't have me, me, me, me 2065 01:25:46,762 --> 01:25:48,004 ♪ Me 2066 01:25:48,108 --> 01:25:52,354 ♪ 2067 01:25:52,457 --> 01:25:55,080 - We have a special surprise for you tonight. 2068 01:25:55,184 --> 01:25:56,427 [cheers and applause] 2069 01:25:56,530 --> 01:26:01,121 It's our old friend, Sindi B! 2070 01:26:01,225 --> 01:26:04,400 [cheers and applause] 2071 01:26:04,504 --> 01:26:10,889 ♪ 2072 01:26:10,993 --> 01:26:15,135 - ♪ Well, I am Jan Brady 2073 01:26:15,239 --> 01:26:16,688 ♪ And you must believe that 2074 01:26:16,792 --> 01:26:19,657 ♪ Or forever perish in your doubt ♪ 2075 01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:24,938 - Being back on stage with the Chicks felt like home. 2076 01:26:25,041 --> 01:26:28,631 It's natural, like magnets that pull us together. 2077 01:26:28,735 --> 01:26:31,186 ♪ 2078 01:26:31,289 --> 01:26:33,533 I've been living in Germany for 15 years, 2079 01:26:33,636 --> 01:26:36,984 not playing in a band, but doing other stuff, 2080 01:26:37,088 --> 01:26:38,779 like having a family 2081 01:26:38,883 --> 01:26:42,058 and stuff that is very un-rock 'n' roll. 2082 01:26:42,162 --> 01:26:45,061 But I'm still rock 'n' roll. 2083 01:26:45,165 --> 01:26:47,236 - ♪ What a trip 2084 01:26:47,340 --> 01:26:50,170 ♪ There I am 2085 01:26:50,274 --> 01:26:54,036 ♪ 2086 01:26:54,139 --> 01:26:56,556 [cheers and applause] 2087 01:26:56,659 --> 01:27:02,044 - These lifelong friends who are my chosen family, 2088 01:27:02,147 --> 01:27:04,149 being together on stage, 2089 01:27:04,253 --> 01:27:06,704 there is nothing like it. 2090 01:27:06,807 --> 01:27:09,672 [rock music] 2091 01:27:09,776 --> 01:27:11,502 It's a once-in-a-lifetime thing 2092 01:27:11,605 --> 01:27:13,366 that has lasted a lifetime. 2093 01:27:13,469 --> 01:27:16,092 - ♪ Miss Demeanor on the stage ♪ 2094 01:27:16,196 --> 01:27:18,957 ♪ Miss Hap, oh, I implore you 2095 01:27:19,061 --> 01:27:22,098 ♪ It's no mystery, I don't want to know you ♪ 2096 01:27:22,202 --> 01:27:24,791 ♪ Miss America, I can't ignore you ♪ 2097 01:27:24,894 --> 01:27:28,070 ♪ Can't wipe out all our progress ♪ 2098 01:27:28,173 --> 01:27:30,900 ♪ With a little cotton ball 2099 01:27:31,004 --> 01:27:33,524 ♪ Slice and dice your face to perfection ♪ 2100 01:27:33,627 --> 01:27:36,492 ♪ Slip up a word and down you fall ♪ 2101 01:27:36,596 --> 01:27:39,115 ♪ Teeth are capped, lipo-sucked ♪ 2102 01:27:39,219 --> 01:27:42,567 ♪ Hair is set and nose is contoured ♪ 2103 01:27:42,671 --> 01:27:45,329 ♪ Tummy tucked and boobs are lifted ♪ 2104 01:27:45,432 --> 01:27:48,159 ♪ Uncross your legs, your pantyhose shifted ♪ 2105 01:27:48,263 --> 01:27:49,194 ♪ Am I smiling enough 2106 01:27:49,298 --> 01:27:50,541 ♪ Am I smiling too much 2107 01:27:50,644 --> 01:27:52,336 ♪ Am I tucked in and buckled 2108 01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:53,923 ♪ Do my tits touch 2109 01:27:54,027 --> 01:27:55,339 ♪ Hi, how are you 2110 01:27:55,442 --> 01:27:56,788 ♪ How high are you 2111 01:27:56,892 --> 01:27:59,722 ♪ Let's get started, it's never enough ♪ 2112 01:27:59,826 --> 01:28:06,695 ♪ 2113 01:28:08,283 --> 01:28:11,286 ♪ You put the extra in ordinary ♪ 2114 01:28:11,389 --> 01:28:14,565 ♪ You add the minus to the plus size ♪ 2115 01:28:14,668 --> 01:28:17,395 ♪ You put the blues into my brown eyes ♪ 2116 01:28:17,499 --> 01:28:20,295 ♪ You put the turd into Saturday ♪ 2117 01:28:20,398 --> 01:28:23,298 ♪ Can't wipe out all our progress ♪ 2118 01:28:23,401 --> 01:28:25,886 ♪ With a little cotton ball 2119 01:28:25,990 --> 01:28:28,717 ♪ Slice and dice your ass to perfection ♪ 2120 01:28:28,820 --> 01:28:30,960 ♪ Slip up a word and down you fall ♪ 2121 01:28:31,064 --> 01:28:32,479 ♪ Am I smiling enough 2122 01:28:32,583 --> 01:28:33,998 ♪ Am I smiling too much 2123 01:28:34,101 --> 01:28:35,551 ♪ Am I tucked in and buckled 2124 01:28:35,655 --> 01:28:37,104 ♪ Do my tits touch 2125 01:28:37,208 --> 01:28:38,520 ♪ Hi, how are you 2126 01:28:38,623 --> 01:28:40,349 ♪ How high are you 2127 01:28:40,453 --> 01:28:43,076 ♪ Less teeth and more tits, it's never enough ♪ 2128 01:28:43,179 --> 01:28:44,871 ♪ 2129 01:28:44,974 --> 01:28:50,221 ♪ Never be good enough 2130 01:28:50,325 --> 01:28:52,119 ♪ You got less teeth and more tits ♪ 2131 01:28:52,223 --> 01:28:54,398 ♪ What a bunch of hypocrites trying to change the world ♪ 2132 01:28:54,501 --> 01:28:55,675 ♪ Oh, oh, oh 2133 01:28:55,778 --> 01:28:58,263 ♪ Bonded tooth smiles, traveled so many miles ♪ 2134 01:28:58,367 --> 01:28:59,748 ♪ What you gonna do now 2135 01:28:59,851 --> 01:29:00,990 ♪ Oh, oh, oh 2136 01:29:01,094 --> 01:29:05,374 ♪ Hey, yo 2137 01:29:05,478 --> 01:29:08,377 ♪ Something different and meaningful ♪ 2138 01:29:08,481 --> 01:29:10,621 ♪ Makes that smile not seem no evil ♪ 2139 01:29:10,724 --> 01:29:12,795 ♪ When that crown falls off your head ♪ 2140 01:29:12,899 --> 01:29:15,142 ♪ Will you still feel better off dead ♪ 2141 01:29:15,246 --> 01:29:16,454 ♪ Yeah 2142 01:29:16,558 --> 01:29:19,526 ♪ I wanna see something else 2143 01:29:19,630 --> 01:29:24,393 ♪ Why don't you show me something else ♪ 2144 01:29:24,497 --> 01:29:28,949 ♪ I want so much to see something else ♪ 2145 01:29:29,053 --> 01:29:33,747 ♪ Why don't you show me something else ♪ 2146 01:29:33,851 --> 01:29:38,096 ♪ Hey, hey 2147 01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,617 ♪ Hey, yeah 2148 01:29:42,653 --> 01:29:44,448 [cheers and applause] 2149 01:29:44,551 --> 01:29:46,104 Oh, my goodness. 2150 01:30:02,466 --> 01:30:03,639 - Something, something there. 2151 01:30:03,743 --> 01:30:05,020 Something, something. Help. 2152 01:30:05,123 --> 01:30:06,055 - [laughs] 2153 01:30:06,159 --> 01:30:09,024 [guitar playing] 2154 01:30:09,127 --> 01:30:11,406 ♪ 2155 01:30:11,509 --> 01:30:13,822 - ♪ Ugliness is only skin deep ♪ 2156 01:30:13,925 --> 01:30:16,549 ♪ And I know the beauty is a beast ♪ 2157 01:30:16,652 --> 01:30:18,999 ♪ Ugliness is only skin deep 2158 01:30:19,103 --> 01:30:22,934 ♪ And I know the beauty is a beast ♪ 2159 01:30:23,038 --> 01:30:27,836 both: ♪ Beauty is a beast, beauty is a beast ♪ 2160 01:30:27,939 --> 01:30:33,531 ♪ Beauty is a beast, beauty is a beast ♪ 2161 01:30:33,635 --> 01:30:35,188 - Guitar solo, bridge, something. 2162 01:30:35,291 --> 01:30:36,603 I don't know. 2163 01:30:36,707 --> 01:30:38,536 - Maybe do that thing from the beginning. 2164 01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,469 - That's this. - Oh. 2165 01:30:40,573 --> 01:30:42,816 - I can do that, something off of the-- 2166 01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,060 and then just... 2167 01:30:45,163 --> 01:30:47,131 ♪ Pretty ugly 2168 01:30:47,234 --> 01:30:48,650 both: ♪ Pretty ugly 2169 01:30:48,753 --> 01:30:50,755 - ♪ It's a thin line - ♪ Pretty ugly 2170 01:30:50,859 --> 01:30:53,309 - ♪ Want you all the time - ♪ Pretty ugly 2171 01:30:53,413 --> 01:30:55,760 - ♪ Face I love to hate - ♪ Pretty ugly 2172 01:30:55,864 --> 01:30:58,038 - ♪ Try to stare - ♪ Pretty ugly 2173 01:30:58,142 --> 01:31:00,765 - ♪ And I don't care - ♪ Pretty ugly 2174 01:31:00,869 --> 01:31:03,043 - ♪ It's a thin line - ♪ Pretty ugly 2175 01:31:03,147 --> 01:31:05,460 - ♪ In your own mind - ♪ Pretty ugly 2176 01:31:05,563 --> 01:31:06,702 - ♪ You one ugly son of a bitch ♪ 2177 01:31:06,806 --> 01:31:08,497 - ♪ Pretty ugly 2178 01:31:08,601 --> 01:31:10,672 - ♪ Butt ugly - ♪ Pretty ugly 2179 01:31:10,775 --> 01:31:12,812 - ♪ But I want to kiss you - ♪ Pretty ugly 2180 01:31:12,915 --> 01:31:15,470 - ♪ On your ugly lips - ♪ Pretty ugly 2181 01:31:15,573 --> 01:31:17,506 - ♪ You ugly son of a bitch 2182 01:31:17,610 --> 01:31:19,128 ♪ 2183 01:31:19,232 --> 01:31:20,992 ♪ You one ugly mo-- ugly motherfucker ♪ 2184 01:31:21,096 --> 01:31:22,097 - [blows raspberry] 2185 01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:23,719 [laughter]