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I'm trying to look
like a professional here.

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-I understand. Nice and neat.
-Yes. Thank you.

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What do you do for work?

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Well, I am, uh…

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I used to…

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I used to…

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I used to work… in finance.

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I acquired companies
from the stock market.

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Hmm!

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But over the last 30 years, I've been, uh…

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I've been on the run.

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-In hiding.
-In hiding?

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Yes. Interpol and everything.

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He has been in hiding for 30 years.

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The man alleged to be behind
one of Sweden's largest financial crimes

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in what came to be known
as the Trustor affair.

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The man behind the suspected fraud
is a 33-year-old man from Stockholm.

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The main perpetrator in the Trustor affair
is Joachim Posener.

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Joachim Posener, the man suspected
of being the brains behind the operation.

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Joachim Posener is wanted by Interpol.

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Rumor has it
that he got away with 100 million,

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had plastic surgery,

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and has been in hiding
in all corners of the world.

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THE TRUSTOR SCANDAL
THAT'S WHERE THE FRAUD'S HIDING

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Police have a new lead
regarding his whereabouts.

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HIS SIGNS OF LIFE

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There was talk about Moscow,

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Tel Aviv, Rio de Janeiro,

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Barbados, Iraq
and a myriad of other countries.

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EXPRESSEN FOUND
THE SUSPECT'S HOME IN ISRAEL

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A reward was offered for any
information that could lead to an arrest.

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INTENSE HUNT FOR POSENER AFTER NEW TIPS

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Police received tips of all kinds.

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NATIONAL POLICE BOARD

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THE WANTED JOACHIM POSENER

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Some said that he had a ponytail,
very large feet,

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spoke with a Scanian accent,

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drank Pepsi,

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and that he was hiding
in the Big Brother house.

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But Joachim Posener was never found.

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The story goes that in 1997,
he and four other people

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managed to buy
the investment company Trustor…

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using Trustor's own money.

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This is unprecedented in
the history of the Swedish stock exchange.

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Somehow, hundreds of millions
of Trustor's funds

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have been traced
to bank accounts all across the world.

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One of the biggest
financial frauds in Swedish history.

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But how did the whole affair come to be?

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Who did what?

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And how did life turn out
for those who were involved?

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INSIDE THE TRUSTOR SCANDAL

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A FILM BY KARIN AF KLINTBERG

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Yo, listen up Here's the story

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About a little guy
That lives in a blue world…

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I had no idea what a damn mess
this company takeover would be

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when I first got involved.

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…inside and outside…

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This "damn mess"
has been under investigation for years.

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Yet what actually happened
still remains unclear,

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with everyone involved
having their own side of the story.

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To bring some clarity,

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I reached out to those
who were involved in one way or another.

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One of them is the consultant,
Thomas Jisander.

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The guy parking his Ferrari.

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Now, looking back in hindsight,

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you might think that I should have known

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what was actually going to happen
with this affair.

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CONSULTANT, TRUSTOR, 1997

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But I didn't.

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I also met with the vice president,

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who is still affected to this day.

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Something broke in my brain.

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I've barely slept since 1997,
to be honest.

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DEPUTY CEO, TRUSTOR, 1997

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As well as the investigative reporter.

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I felt in my gut
that something wasn't right.

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And the police officer
that hunted down Joachim Posener.

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FORMER CHIEF
FINANCIAL INTELLIGENCE UNIT

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It haunts me so much
that we didn't catch the main suspect

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behind the Trustor affair.

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Shit…

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And lastly, the seasoned
financier who tried to clean up the mess.

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It's one thing to be tough in business.

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FINANCIER

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But when it comes to criminals,
I have no qualms.

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And then there's Joachim Posener,

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whom neither the police nor Interpol
managed to find in those 30 years.

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His side of the story has never been told.

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PICTURED AS HE USED TO LOOK

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Whether it was worth the price
of leaving his family and children behind

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to live in hiding.

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After an extensive search, I managed

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to obtain the email address
of the missing Joachim Posener.

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REGARDS,
KARIN AF KLINTBERG

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SORRY TO NAG…

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THIRD TIME LUCKY…

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And when I expressed that
I was only looking for the truth…

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IT'S DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE
WHO'S TELLING THE TRUTH

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…he finally replied.

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INBOX

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ARLANDA TERMINAL 5

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I got your email and read it.

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And… okay.

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I'll agree to schedule a meeting
with you somewhere in Europe.

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What are the terms for this meeting?

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I still want the option to back out.

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How will I know it's you when I see you?

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You'll recognize this voice.

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And even though it's been 30 years,

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I don't look that different.

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BRUSSELS

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The first meeting was set
in a public place,

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where Joachim Posener
could watch us from a distance.

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The agreement was that we were
only allowed to film him from behind.

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No one knows
what he looks like these days…

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Bonjour.

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Hello, I'm Joachim.

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There are very few
official photos of Joachim Posener.

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Which makes sense for someone
who does not want to be found.

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While on the run,
he has given a single TV interview,

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but since he was actively wanted
by the police at the time,

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he didn't wanna show his face,

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and he lied his way through
the entire interview.

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People claim you're the mastermind
behind the Trustor affair. Were you?

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No, absolutely not.

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I had nothing to do with any of this.

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Uh, I entered the picture
in… in August.

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Before that, I…

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You've never really
explained to me what happened.

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Why are you deciding to do it now?

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We're now past the statute of limitations.

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There's no reason to stay silent anymore.

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Will you tell the truth in our interviews?

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-Will you tell the truth?
-I… I definitely won't lie.

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-About anything?
-No.

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But you'll have to ask
the right questions.

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The people involved had their own reasons

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for getting involved in the deal.

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To me, it was about making money,

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and feeling like I was a success.

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Money gives you a kind of freedom,

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and it's a confirmation of whether
you're successful or not.

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Ever since I was a kid, I've been
fascinated by big yachts and nice cars.

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Excuse me!

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Eighty! Eight zero, right?

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What is the model?

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I dreamt of becoming very rich.

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To charter a yacht
after a successful deal,

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sit on top of an ACTA deck
with a drink in hand

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and feel like I did a really good job.

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I wanted to make money and feel like
I deserved that childhood dream.

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My dream was
to get into the finance world.

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I was obsessed by it.

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I used to sell business systems.

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Wherever I worked,
I was usually the best salesman.

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But what I really wanted
was to be the boss.

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Which was a crazy goal,

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because it turns out
that I am not a very good boss.

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Back in the day, when you had a "yacht",

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it had to be at least 100 to 115 feet.

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That was the limit
for it to be considered as a yacht.

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How long is this one?

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27?

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These days, standards are a bit higher.

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Now, I'd definitely not call it a yacht
if it's not at least 165 feet.

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Otherwise, you definitely
can't call it a yacht.

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No one remembers a coward.

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Joachim Posener
had other motives for the deal.

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After our first meeting
with Joachim Posener,

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we were allowed to continue meeting
in various locations across Europe.

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Ahem.

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Yup.

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You managed to get me here.

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I was not allowed to film his face.

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At least, not at first.

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He has one rule.

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No questions about his family.

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It is a rule I'll come to bend eventually.

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I still control
every little detail of my life.

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It becomes a… habit,

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when you live life on the run.

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If you want to avoid being found,

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you've gotta be bland,
uninteresting, and invisible.

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You've got to disappear in the crowd,
blend in with everyone else.

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You can't attract anyone's attention.

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While on the run from the police,
I lived a bit like a secret agent.

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I sacrificed my family
and my life for freedom.

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Not for the money.

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Have you visited Sweden
in the last 30 years?

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Not even once.

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Why didn't you return home?

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I couldn't bring myself to serve
a maximum sentence in prison again.

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I barely got through
the last sentence I served.

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"The last sentence" refers
to the last prison sentence

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that Joachim Posener served
before the Trustor affair.

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In the late 1980s,

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at the height of the financial boom,

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22-year-old Joachim Posener
had already begun

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trading stocks and options,

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and selling creative tax solutions.

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At first, things went well.

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He was making millions.

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I wanted respect
from people in the financial world,

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even though I didn't really belong there.

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I was young, and wanted
to be part of the financial elite.

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I wanted everything and I wanted it fast,

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so I took some shortcuts, because
I didn't have time for the scenic route.

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I hadn't even finished law school.

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My greatest fear was
to live this life unnoticed,

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and not leave my mark,
and be remembered for what I did.

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It led to me working extremely hard,
and working on bigger things,

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so that I could leave a trace
of my existence in this world.

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Joachim Posener founded
the investment company Thul

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with a colleague.

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It had offices on fancy streets
in Stockholm and Copenhagen.

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The only problem was that they didn't have
any money to do business with.

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In 1991, during the financial
crisis, loans were impossible to get.

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GENERAL INDEX 30 DAYS
1.5%

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MARKET CAPITALISATION

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But I was able to find a way
to use rigged options.

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It doesn't actually have to exist,
it just needs to look like it does.

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I had invented a way to create
as many assets as I wanted, on paper.

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That led us to acquiring four
publicly listed companies in Denmark.

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But that also meant that we had acquired
them under not-so-legal circumstances.

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I had bought a house
and had just had a daughter.

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OUR DAUGHTER
JANUARY 13TH 1992

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And life was great.

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But then there was a knock at the door.

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And it was the police.

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From this house, two Swedes tried
to drain millions from the city.

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The masterminds were sentenced
to six and four and a half years

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for financial fraud.

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POSENER, JOACHIM RALPH
NORRTÄLJE PRISON

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Joachim Posener was
permanently expelled from Denmark

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and sentenced to six years
in prison in Sweden

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for aggravated fraud and tax evasion.

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It was such a… a shock
to receive such a severe sentence

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in a high-security prison.

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I was 29 when I got locked up.

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It was, um…

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…completely devastating.

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THEIR COUP LANDED THEM 500 MILLION

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MARRIED 12/01/1990
OWNER OF A VILLA ON LIDINGÖ

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I lost my house, my wife,
my child, custody.

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TAXED INCOME: 74,000
TOTALED INCOME: 193,000 WEALTH: 1,032,000

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Everything was gone. It was a nightmare.

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Going from an upper-middle-class life
and driving a BMW to work

250
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to being surrounded by walls
covered in blood and vomit…

251
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The Norrtälje prison.

252
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It was one of Sweden's toughest prisons
security-wise,

253
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with extreme security measures.

254
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I didn't belong there.

255
00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,440
It's for people that are
too dangerous to be around others.

256
00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,000
I sure wasn't
in the finance world anymore.

257
00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,800
You're afraid constantly.

258
00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,440
Look at the wrong guy the wrong way
at the wrong time and you get beat up.

259
00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,440
They're used to fighting, I'm not.

260
00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,120
The experience taught me
one thing, though.

261
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I never wanted to go through that again.

262
00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,280
Yet it was in prison, first in Norrtälje,

263
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then in an open facility,

264
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that Joachim Posener began
planning his next move,

265
00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,200
which would come to be the Trustor affair.

266
00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,040
Within a week, I was already
thinking about how to do it again.

267
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But even better.

268
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My mission was to get revenge

269
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and eventually become legit.

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I had made acquiring companies
without funding my specialty.

271
00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,480
And that was the plan this time as well.

272
00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,840
I needed to prove to myself
that it could work.

273
00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,520
That I could acquire a company
with its own money

274
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without breaking any laws.

275
00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,320
So I started looking
for a publicly listed company

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where I could acquire a majority stake
and take control.

277
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It needed to have strong cash reserves

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and, ideally, undervalued assets.

279
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Whenever they let me out,

280
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I would fill up bags with
financial magazines and annual reports.

281
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I would walk past the guard

282
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and smuggle them right into prison.

283
00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,080
I had made a list of potential companies.

284
00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,280
One of them was Trustor.

285
00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,040
But it could have been
any company, really.

286
00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,640
Since I was in prison,
I needed accomplices.

287
00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,680
I couldn't buy listed companies anymore.

288
00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,960
I was banned from the finance world.
I was burned.

289
00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,480
And that's when my cousin
reached out to me.

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00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,320
JOACHIM, COUSIN THOMAS

291
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COUSINS

292
00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,160
Joachim Posener and I are cousins.

293
00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,560
His mother and my mother were sisters.

294
00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:39,480
So we've basically known each other
our entire lives.

295
00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,240
It was around October or November 1996.

296
00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,200
Joachim Posener contacted me from prison.

297
00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,400
He wanted me to visit him.

298
00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,360
Thomas reached out to me

299
00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,160
and said he wanted to pay me a visit.

300
00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,160
So I said yes.

301
00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,240
He started telling me about his Thul deal

302
00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,960
and what had happened.

303
00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,960
Suddenly, he said…

304
00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,000
"Listen, if you've got something brewing
that I can be a part of, I want to do it."

305
00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,560
"Like you did in Denmark."

306
00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:19,080
Joachim asked me to take part
in the deals he wanted to make.

307
00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,720
Thomas nagged his way into being included.

308
00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:22,880
CIVIL ENGINEER

309
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,160
But he knew nothing about this stuff.

310
00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,200
He worked within ISO 9000 certification.

311
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,320
QUALITY ADVISOR - ISO 9000

312
00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:33,080
Yeah, but I mean, I was educated enough
to understand the concept,

313
00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,960
even though I hadn't
worked in that field before.

314
00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,120
I…

315
00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,720
I needed someone
to attend meetings in my place,

316
00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,360
and he said he was willing
to do as he was told.

317
00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,440
This was my baby, my project.

318
00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,160
It was important to me
that I was sole captain of the ship.

319
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,320
But I had failed to anticipate that

320
00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,280
Thomas would become
blinded by the money,

321
00:18:58,360 --> 00:18:59,920
start acting stupid.

322
00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,600
Look who's here! Welcome, welcome!
This is my home. This is the living room.

323
00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,600
TRUSTOR CONSULTANT

324
00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,440
And there's my little, uh,
conference table.

325
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,200
And the dining room.

326
00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,200
A big American-style sofa.

327
00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,920
And here is where I keep my bubbly.

328
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,240
Which, uh, I drink when I'm thirsty,

329
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,480
and that happens quite often.

330
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,720
So yeah, it's a refrigerator, actually.

331
00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,480
And then I have a lovely view over Monaco.

332
00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:35,760
I think I'm gonna pour myself a drink.

333
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,920
God, It's so bright.

334
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,680
That tastes good.

335
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,600
Here's a mini barbecue
and a small fridge. A caviar fridge.

336
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,400
Right, let's move on. I've got
a few coffee machines,

337
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,920
icemakers, and stuff.

338
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,720
And this is the bedroom.

339
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,520
It's Versace. I only want the best,
so that's what I get.

340
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,400
2,100 square feet in a prime location.

341
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,800
Yup. Feels quite good. Gets the job done.

342
00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:15,520
The cousins grew up
in good middle-class neighborhoods.

343
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,320
Jisander in Askim in Gothenburg…

344
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,000
IN FRONT OF THE VILLA ON LIDINGÖ

345
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,560
…and Posener in Lidingö in Stockholm.

346
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,560
JOACHIM IS GOING ICE-SKATING

347
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,800
I wasn't a cool kid.

348
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,800
But I had a strong feeling
that nothing was impossible.

349
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,320
JOACHIM READING AS USUAL

350
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,240
When was the first time
you took an unlawful loan?

351
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,400
I was part of a financial club in college.

352
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,280
Um, I think I was 17 or 18 years old

353
00:20:43,360 --> 00:20:46,840
and, uh… I needed to pay for something
and they had cash.

354
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,000
So I took it.
But I had the intention to pay it back,

355
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,840
but they found out
it was missing before that.

356
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,480
It must've been…
I don't remember, 10,000 bucks.

357
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,760
Do you think that was
a sign of things to come?

358
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,960
I think it has more to do
with how I look on laws and regulations.

359
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,840
I try to follow the laws as best I can,

360
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,240
but when they don't suit me,
I see them as guidelines.

361
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,800
When he is
temporarily allowed to leave prison,

362
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,320
Posener takes liberties.

363
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,440
TRAVEL WHILE ON LEAVE

364
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,440
He attends business meetings
across Europe,

365
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,160
even though he wasn't allowed
to leave the country.

366
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,600
After four years,
he is released, but on parole.

367
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,320
He got out sometime in February of 1997.

368
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,320
RELEASED!

369
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,760
He came out of prison
and he needed a place to stay.

370
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,200
I had an apartment that
I wasn't using then, so I let him use it.

371
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,760
Joachim Posener is under supervision

372
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,720
and banned from commercial activities.

373
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,480
But that doesn't matter
if you're invisible.

374
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,600
After a while, I realized
we needed more accomplices

375
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,880
to help us get there
and, um, to open some doors.

376
00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:04,080
And that's when Thomas suggested
his friend Peter Mattsson.

377
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,320
Peter Mattsson was from
a wealthy family in Gothenburg.

378
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,520
To me, Peter Mattsson's biggest asset
was that he knew a British lord.

379
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,960
A lord who fit my plan perfectly.

380
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,640
Peter Mattsson came to me
with this proposition and said,

381
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:31,080
"There are these people who want you
to front them buying Trustor."

382
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,040
Lord Moyne is from
the successful brewery family Guinness.

383
00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:41,120
He was indeed a British lord.

384
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,800
But for a lord, he is a bit strange.

385
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,240
He wears worn-out loafers…

386
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,440
and Rastafari bracelets.

387
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,200
He practices yoga.

388
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,680
He lives with his wife Sue
during the week,

389
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,800
and with his mistress Shoe on weekends.

390
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:01,600
Business was not his cup of tea.

391
00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:05,120
But the lord needed money.

392
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:10,360
And he would get it, so long as
he fronted the acquisition of Trustor.

393
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,600
He was my hired figurehead.

394
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,880
With a British lord on board,

395
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,920
I knew that every single door
was now open for us.

396
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,080
The world of finance
was eating out of his hand.

397
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,360
The lord was portrayed
as a business genius

398
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,520
who wanted to make
large investments in the Nordics.

399
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,320
THE LORD PREFERS TO BUY IN THE NORDICS

400
00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:41,040
As proof of his wealth,
the trio showcased a British magazine

401
00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:45,120
which claimed he was one
of England's 500 richest people.

402
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,000
But they never told anyone
that it was a factual error.

403
00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:58,520
I had my front man
and I had my two assistants,

404
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,360
but a publicly listed company needs a CEO.

405
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,840
I didn't really care who,
as long as he was cooperative

406
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,920
and knew that I'd be
the one calling the shots.

407
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,840
And Peter said, "You know what?
I know a guy, he's great."

408
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,280
Lindsay Smallbone.

409
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,880
Lindsay Smallbone was from New Zealand,

410
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,760
but he lived in London.

411
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,680
He moved in high society circles,
alongside Lord Moyne.

412
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,400
He lived an extravagant life
and had accumulated debts.

413
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,920
So the Trustor job offer
came at an opportune time.

414
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,440
And so Team Moyne was ready.

415
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,320
From prison,
the best people I could recruit

416
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,520
were the party boys Jisander and Mattsson.

417
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,920
And those…

418
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:56,480
well, amateurs, Lord Moyne
and Lindsay Smallbone.

419
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,960
It was kind of an amateur move,

420
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,400
but back then, you couldn't just
look people up online, on Google.

421
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,600
That didn't exist.

422
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,920
I chose wrong, it turned out.

423
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,800
I should've chosen anyone
but Lindsay Smallbone.

424
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,480
He was the one who ruined everything.

425
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,840
To me, they were just front men.

426
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:26,880
And to afford them and all the other costs
from the acquisition,

427
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,360
I borrowed money from the underworld.

428
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,640
Hardened criminals
that I'd met in prison in Norrtälje.

429
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,680
'Cause I couldn't borrow from anyone else.

430
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:45,440
I offered them a return of 20 million
if they'd lend me one million.

431
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,160
And you don't play games
with those people.

432
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:56,320
They would kill you.
So failure was not an option.

433
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,680
In the spring of 1997,
another person was brought onto the team.

434
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,000
But the interview process
was rather informal,

435
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,360
with Richard Djursén
being recruited at the gym.

436
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,880
I met Thomas Jisander,
um, in front of a mirror at the gym.

437
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,720
I must have been doing
a couple bicep curls.

438
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,480
We were standing there,
talking to ourselves in the mirror.

439
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,240
Another dude was
talking to himself in front of the mirror.

440
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,920
He was looking at his biceps.
"Look at these guns," that's what he said.

441
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,400
After a while,
we decided to talk to each other instead.

442
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,240
And we became friends.

443
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,880
Thomas said he had something in the works
and that I could be part of it.

444
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,040
I was dying to change jobs.

445
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:03,240
I wanted to get into finance.

446
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,360
And this allowed me
to make that career move.

447
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,800
Since I was a kid,
I dreamed about buying a house.

448
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,760
My own house. Um…

449
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,360
So that's what's driven me my entire life,
is the will to build a house.

450
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,440
I wasn't driven by money,
I just wanted a house.

451
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,880
And I've worked very hard to achieve that.

452
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,880
You can tell I have an inferiority complex
by the size of my house.

453
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,960
I was raised by a single mother
who cleaned hotel rooms.

454
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,760
She worked hard,
but we never had any money.

455
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,320
Uh, so when I met other kids
who got bikes and mopeds and… you know,

456
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,920
I never got anything.

457
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,520
And it wasn't because
my… my mother was stingy,

458
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,400
she simply couldn't afford it.

459
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,080
And later on,
I was placed in a foster home.

460
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:56,440
The napkins won't match perfectly
this time, but it'll… it'll do the job.

461
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,200
At Trustor, my role was to serve
as vice president

462
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,840
and head of office

463
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,760
at the office in Stockholm.

464
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,480
In the spring,
I knew nothing of Joachim Posener.

465
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,240
I later found out he had been involved
in financial fraud,

466
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,880
but I wasn't aware of that back then.

467
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,200
Ahem.

468
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,200
All of my front men knew everything.

469
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,520
Hmm.

470
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,200
Who I was, that I was Joachim Posener.

471
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,200
They knew that
I was the one buying Trustor.

472
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:42,960
If you think that everyone in the group
knew everything, you're wrong. We didn't.

473
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,200
Djursén and Jisander
both knew there was no money.

474
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,400
At the time, none of us knew
the company was being acquired

475
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,880
using its own money.

476
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,160
They knew I bought the company
using its own money.

477
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,200
Once again, everyone knew everything.

478
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,840
But it all leads back to me.

479
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,520
Because I'm the one who did it.

480
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,760
You now want to show your face.

481
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,640
Can you tell us why now?

482
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,960
I realized it's time to be fully honest.

483
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,200
I own what I've done.

484
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,920
I'll show my face now,
but then I'll disappear again.

485
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,320
The plan was perfect.

486
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,120
But some things are
just out of your control.

487
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,960
Joachim Posener stays in the background

488
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,600
as the negotiations with Trustor begin
in the spring of 1997.

489
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,760
I got very good at managing
my assistants remotely,

490
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,200
like running a…

491
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,760
puppet show.

492
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,320
I called Thomas and told him what to say,

493
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,080
and he did great.

494
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,200
He was obedient, a quick learner,
and easy to control.

495
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,120
Thomas's job was to be my assistant.

496
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,200
I mean, I wasn't just a mouthpiece.

497
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,840
Lots of small decisions
had to be made on the fly.

498
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,320
I got calls daily
from my gangster friends,

499
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,440
demanding I pay them back immediately,

500
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,880
so I needed to close this deal
as soon as possible.

501
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,480
But how will Joachim Posener

502
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,920
convince Trustor's founder and owner,
Per-Olov Norberg, to sell?

503
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,080
Trustor was an investment firm
that didn't produce anything itself,

504
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,640
but bought and sold other companies.

505
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,680
And at the time, its portfolio
held several valuable assets.

506
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,720
COMPANY
1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5

507
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,760
The owner Norberg had
undervalued these assets for a long time.

508
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,360
He was willing to sell on one condition,

509
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,440
that he could buy them back.

510
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,600
The rest of the financial world turned
him down, but that suited me perfectly.

511
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,200
Of course I would give him what he wanted,

512
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,920
if he gave me what I wanted.

513
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,640
He would have the option
to buy back Trustor's assets.

514
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,200
And with that sale,
I would bring cash into the company.

515
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,400
I didn't have any money.

516
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,560
Joachim Posener
only needed to buy 17% of the shares

517
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,720
to take control of Trustor.

518
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,640
These were high-voting A-shares,

519
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,160
and by acquiring them,
he would gain a majority in the company

520
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,920
and have access to its cash reserves.

521
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,520
I needed a short-term loan.

522
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,600
The price tag for the Trustor shares
was a quarter of a billion kronor.

523
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,040
If I could borrow that amount
for a single day,

524
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,600
I could pay for the shares,
take control of the cash reserves,

525
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,800
and then immediately pay back the loan.

526
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,200
Twenty-four hours was all I needed.

527
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,360
Joachim asked me to find a financier.

528
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,840
I managed to bring in a billionaire
who was willing to provide a loan.

529
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,160
That's essentially bridge financing,
and it's perfectly legal.

530
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,040
The loan was secured,
but a legal obstacle emerged.

531
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,000
A majority shareholder or board member

532
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,160
cannot purchase the company's own assets.

533
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,760
I resolved this by getting Norberg
to resign before the deal.

534
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,800
That gave me an unexpected advantage.

535
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,880
I suddenly had a five-day extension
on the payment,

536
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,360
and no longer needed
the loan from Thomas's billionaire.

537
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,680
After all this, Joachim told me

538
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,440
that the financier I had found
was no longer needed.

539
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,080
Joachim had come up with another solution.

540
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,120
Joachim Posener had put together

541
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,600
a massive "buy now, pay later" deal.

542
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,440
But that created two major problems.

543
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:52,200
The purchase price of 240 million
left a hole in Trustor's cashflow

544
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,840
that, sooner or later,
would need to be covered.

545
00:33:54,920 --> 00:34:00,160
And buying a company
using its own money is illegal.

546
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,640
Everything was ready.

547
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,400
All that was missing was
Lord Moyne's signature on the paper.

548
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,200
That's when I realized
I had a big decision to make.

549
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,280
I wasn't able to find a way
to make the acquisition legal.

550
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,760
I knew that, but I did it anyway.

551
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:24,960
It was a gamble.

552
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,480
This is where we're different,

553
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,000
because I wouldn't have made that choice.

554
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,440
Every instinct told me this would work.

555
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,040
JUNE 12, 1997

556
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,440
I wasn't in the room
when the deal with Norberg was signed.

557
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,800
But I had meticulously planned out
the meeting beforehand.

558
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,480
Everyone knew what their job was
and did it.

559
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,720
The deal was signed at the
office of Erik Penser Corporate Finance.

560
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,640
They had gathered
Per-Olov Norberg as the seller,

561
00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:10,280
Lord Moyne as the buyer.

562
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,960
I was there as a consultant.

563
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,440
Peter Mattsson was there,

564
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,480
and Erik Penser himself,
along with three of his staff members.

565
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,960
I sat in my room waiting
for a call to say that it was done.

566
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:28,960
I didn't have the slightest idea
that anything was wrong with the deal.

567
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,680
It was sanctioned at every level.

568
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,200
And finally, the call came.

569
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,840
It was Thomas.

570
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,680
"It's done, Jocke!"

571
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,760
When the agreement was finally signed,

572
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,000
it was a fantastic moment for everyone.

573
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,320
It was a massive accomplishment.

574
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,680
We actually pulled it off.
It was a done deal.

575
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,600
"Yes, well… it's champagne o'clock!"

576
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,760
Finally, after four years,
the deal had come together.

577
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,960
And then it was just… "Wow! I'm back."

578
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,840
There we go.

579
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:19,760
Team Moyne now had
full access to Trustor's cash reserves.

580
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,600
But they weren't finished yet.

581
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,280
They still needed to arrange
the payments for the loan.

582
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,760
And they had five days to do it.

583
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,320
Posener sent the group to a bank in London
to open several new accounts.

584
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,880
This is where it happened.

585
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,800
The same day they walked in there,

586
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,680
Richard Djursén walked
into a bank in Stockholm.

587
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,720
I was 35 years old, and got
to be part of a 620 million transaction.

588
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,080
I thought I'd finally made it
in the finance industry.

589
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,760
That's where I wanted to be.

590
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:07,480
Richard Djursén transferred
Trustor's money from Sweden

591
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,600
to Trustor's newly opened account
in England.

592
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,440
There, the money passed
through Thomas Jisander's account

593
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,640
before being sent on to Lord Moyne,
who paid the former owner.

594
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,600
So it looked as though the payment
was coming from the lord.

595
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,800
What made it illegal
was when I told Thomas

596
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,920
to send money from Trustor's account
to his own account,

597
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,440
and then on to Lord Moyne,

598
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,520
and then that Norberg was paid
with the company's own money.

599
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,560
Ahem.

600
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,680
I wasn't that involved in that.

601
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,400
Joachim claimed
to have financing in place.

602
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,480
I was instructed to open
an agent account at Barclays Bank,

603
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,320
to receive money
from the financier in question.

604
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,880
Who that was, I didn't know.

605
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:02,840
But at that point,
you knew you had no financiers?

606
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,480
How would I have known that?

607
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,560
Surely you talked to each other?

608
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,040
The money came from the financier.

609
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,560
That was how I saw it.

610
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,240
I forwarded it to Lord Moyne,
who paid Per-Olov Norberg.

611
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,240
Very straightforward deal. End of story.

612
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,000
The deal was done. Trustor was mine.

613
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,080
I was sitting on a plane,
and I was looking around.

614
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,120
Everything was good in my life.
I owned Trustor.

615
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,920
And I thought, "Nobody knows it…

616
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,840
…but I'm the richest
and most powerful person on this plane."

617
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,840
Trustor's cash reserves
were filled to the brim. Nearly a billion.

618
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:14,880
If I'd just wanted
to take the money and run,

619
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,080
that would have been
the moment to do it.

620
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,840
But I had other ambitions.

621
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,680
I wanted to build a corporate empire.

622
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,480
Posener decided London

623
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,440
would be the site
for this corporate empire.

624
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,280
He had figured out that,
as long as he was living abroad,

625
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:39,480
he could avoid
the probation service's supervision.

626
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:46,320
To get established, Team Moyne
enlisted the help of a local operator.

627
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,600
Ah, lunchtime,
I have a gin and dry martini.

628
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,960
A little bit of gin…

629
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,600
Evening, whisky.

630
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,520
That's been my habit for about 50 years.

631
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,080
Just a spot. Skol!

632
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,560
The first task was to find an office.

633
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:12,160
"We need the best office
it is possible to have in London."

634
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,040
"With helicopter pad, if possible."

635
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,480
I'm thinking, "Who are these people?"

636
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,800
Endless money.

637
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,840
This is where our office was.

638
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:26,960
It was

639
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,880
the place to be in London at that time.

640
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,040
My office was that one, at the top,

641
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,840
It had its own terrace.

642
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,000
We fought over that office.

643
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,400
Everyone wanted it, but I won.

644
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,000
There was always, to me,
a little bit of an aura of mystery.

645
00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:55,480
There was one room in particular
I remember had to have treble walls.

646
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,680
From there,
I would be able to listen to the meeting

647
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,120
going on in the room next door,

648
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,560
directing Thomas over the phone,

649
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,400
so he would say
what I wanted him to say.

650
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,240
I asked Michael Wynne-Parker
to help furnish the office.

651
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,960
It had to be luxurious.

652
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,000
It had to be "investment banking."
It had to be… top class.

653
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,320
And money was no object, so I set off.

654
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,600
For me, it was important
that things looked right.

655
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,720
I knew that would open new doors
and create opportunities.

656
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:47,320
And then we discovered
Napoleon's desk in Harrods.

657
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,320
It was expensive as hell.

658
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,960
Apparently, it once stood
at the Palace of Versailles.

659
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,080
It was a really nice desk.
I wonder what happened to it.

660
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,880
Poor Napoleon.

661
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,960
Everyone on Team Moyne
took fees for their work.

662
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,360
SUMMARY OF TRUSTOR FUNDS DISBURSED

663
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,000
That was not illegal in itself,

664
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,240
but the amounts were unusually high.

665
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,040
Large sums were channeled
through accounts in Gibraltar,

666
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,320
Lichtenstein, and Switzerland,

667
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,240
and also to girlfriends
and family members.

668
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,920
Before the summer half-year report,

669
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,800
Team Moyne had to show
that no money was missing.

670
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,760
The solution was a one-day loan.

671
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,560
Window dressing from a bank in Luxembourg.

672
00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:38,480
From the outside,
it all seemed to be going very well.

673
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,440
Still a part of me

674
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,600
I can't break free

675
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,880
Still a part of me

676
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,400
I can't break free…

677
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:53,520
After the deal,
they lived lavishly in London.

678
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,920
Very lavishly.

679
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,920
Joachim Posener was staying at a hotel.

680
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,200
Thomas Jisander and Peter Mattsson
furnished a shared apartment.

681
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,920
I believe you're still a part of me…

682
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,480
It was a fantastic penthouse
with a wraparound terrace,

683
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,720
with views over all of London
and Hyde Park,

684
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,040
with huge reception rooms
and golden faucets.

685
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,960
My bedroom was entirely Versace.
I was fully into the Versace thing.

686
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,640
Versace bedspreads, Versace pillows,
Versace dressing gowns. Everything.

687
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,680
A fantastic apartment.

688
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,600
Tell me, do I deserve…

689
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,120
We went our separate ways for the summer.

690
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,200
We took a break until fall.

691
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,360
Then we'd get to work.

692
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,280
I told Thomas to keep a low profile.

693
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,040
-Whoo!
-Whoa!

694
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,560
Whoo!

695
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,720
Ohh!

696
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,080
Celebrating should be fun, not boring.

697
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,400
And how do you have the most fun?
By doing whatever you want.

698
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,720
We're now walking
on Pampelonne Beach,

699
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,320
27 years later.

700
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,360
It's still a little exciting
to "walk the plank" again.

701
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,040
It's kind of fun. A little nerve-wracking,
but exciting at the same time.

702
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:14,040
We're now approaching the very beach
where we partied after the fantastic deal.

703
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,520
The bar was here,
from somewhere over there… to here.

704
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,440
We did a great job.
I was well paid for my efforts.

705
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,880
Money well earned, I'd say.

706
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,600
The bar was huge.
We have to celebrate that.

707
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,400
Whoo-hoo!

708
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,320
Only proper way
to do that is with a yacht.

709
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,320
"Peter, wake up! Time to pop the cork."

710
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,760
We boarded that boat in late June,
if I remember right.

711
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,200
We had it for nearly two months.

712
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,480
The boat was equipped
with a helicopter pad.

713
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,560
It wasn't meant for flying 200 yards
from the boat to the beach.

714
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,440
But that was exactly why
it was so fun to do it.

715
00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:57,040
We kept thinking we had to raise the bar.
"What are we gonna do this time?"

716
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:01,440
So I started dressing up
to keep things interesting.

717
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,560
I put on a bra, high heels,
and those big Elton John glasses,

718
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:11,240
and danced all over the boat
while blasting Star Wars music.

719
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:15,520
This is the spot we flew in from.

720
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,200
To there. Maybe 500 yards?

721
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,160
Waah! Up in the air.

722
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:23,520
The only place we could land
was on the roof of the bar.

723
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,920
The bar at Voile Rouge
was made out of concrete.

724
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,280
Four pillars and a very sturdy roof.

725
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,400
That's where we landed
with the helicopter.

726
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,880
But we didn't consider
how strong the rotor blades were.

727
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,640
Pah-pah-pah-pah-pah-pah-pah!

728
00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:42,400
We landed on the roof and
were going to make a fantastic entrance,

729
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,000
but it blew everything away.

730
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,840
People were sitting there eating lunch.

731
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,760
Everyone started running.

732
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,120
Uh…

733
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,280
Everything was flying around.
People, food in their faces, bolognese…

734
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,680
Salmon, shrimp, you name it,

735
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,880
all of it was all over everyone's faces.

736
00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:03,120
It looked like a war zone.
I thought, "What the hell do we do now?"

737
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,040
I came out of the helicopter riding high,

738
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,000
but those people looked like
they were going to kill us.

739
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,360
To make up for the damage,
I decided to order champagne.

740
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,320
I ordered everything they had.

741
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,160
"What do you mean, everything?"
"Everything!"

742
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,720
The money was burning
a hole in his pocket.

743
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,320
It was crazy.

744
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,320
It must have been one of the best summers

745
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,800
for everyone who was on that beach
at Voile Rouge in July 1997.

746
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,400
That bill came to 408 bottles of Cristal.

747
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,480
Pffffffffft!

748
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,760
Meanwhile in Sweden,
at the much quieter Stockholm office,

749
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,520
vice president Richard Djursén
was trying to hold things together.

750
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:02,520
I worked through the summer.

751
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,520
I was given a lot of strange tasks.

752
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,200
They could be anything and everything.

753
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,040
A lot of it was rather boring, though.

754
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,360
I changed the locks on doors.

755
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,000
I bought a new fax machine.

756
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,120
Flight tickets arrived for people
that had nothing to do with Trustor.

757
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,040
TO DO

758
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,720
I ran a lot of personal errands for them.

759
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:20,640
UNPAID BILLS

760
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:24,200
Thomas had an apartment
in Vasastan, not far from there.

761
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,440
I went there to collect his mail
and pay his bills.

762
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,080
With his money, of course.

763
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,080
It's starting to rain.

764
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,040
I need to get these out of the rain,

765
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:41,880
because of all the pollen
in the air right now.

766
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,640
But it's more of a hygiene issue.

767
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:46,000
I think it makes sense.

768
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,600
Good exercise, too,

769
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,280
Running… back and forth.

770
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,440
You don't have to do this in Marbella.

771
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,640
Okay, I think that's it.
It's really coming down now.

772
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,560
For God's sake…

773
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,560
That summer,
I got a call from Richard Djursén.

774
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,720
He was hysterical. "Jocke, Jocke,
you have to do something about this."

775
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,160
"It's gonna be a disaster."

776
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:15,120
He explained that Thomas
had ended up in Paris Match magazine

777
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,160
with his champagne parties.

778
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:19,360
So I called him.

779
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,080
But there was no stopping Thomas.

780
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,960
You couldn't accuse them
of being boring out on the French Riviera.

781
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,520
Thomas Jisander was given
the nickname "Mr. No Limit".

782
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,680
A BILLIONAIRE SCREAMED
TO 15 GIRLS, "HELP YOURSEVES!"

783
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,120
Peter Mattsson and Thomas Jisander
each bought a Ferrari on a whim.

784
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:43,440
One blue, a Ferrari F355,
and an identical red one.

785
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,600
They were around one million francs.

786
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,160
We paid in cash,
got in the cars and drove off.

787
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,120
I never saw that car again.

788
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,960
I had that Ferrari for 15 minutes.

789
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,760
I don't know where
it ended up. I left it somewhere.

790
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,000
So much happened that summer.

791
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:06,280
We had one car left.

792
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:12,120
So we decided to drive down together
to the Versace store in Saint-Tropez.

793
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,280
I was horrified
when they told me afterwards.

794
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,120
It was the exact opposite
of what you should do

795
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,200
if you've just bought a company
with its own money.

796
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:24,640
You don't want any unnecessary attention.

797
00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:27,480
We had this unsaid competition
going the whole time.

798
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,480
The one who has most toys
when he dies wins, more or less.

799
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,680
I would never in my wildest imagination

800
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,200
have thought that anyone
could be so reckless.

801
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,280
But I had underestimated Thomas.

802
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,720
In 1997, that summer,
the Versace store was here.

803
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,640
We rolled up from over here.

804
00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:47,520
That's where I stopped.

805
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,640
Brr-brr-brr!

806
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:51,720
I dropped Peter off,
and he's getting out, he says,

807
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:56,280
"There won't be a single thing left
in the store by the time you come in."

808
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,080
Pfft! He walked straight into the store.

809
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,640
We'd had a few drinks.

810
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:03,560
"There will be nothing
left for you at all."

811
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:08,120
He bought everything in every size.
That set me off.

812
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,320
"How do I top this?"

813
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,480
So I told them that I wanted the rest.

814
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,080
"But there's nothing left, sir."

815
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,160
"I'll take the checkout counter,
the cash register,

816
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:21,960
the changing room doors,
drapes, curtains and light fixtures."

817
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,680
"Unscrew everything, the whole store."

818
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,560
Electrical wires were hanging everywhere.
It was completely gutted.

819
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,360
Like a grenade
had been thrown into the place.

820
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,440
Then the owner took a screwdriver…

821
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,680
There was a Medusa here, cut in half,
so you could open the door like this.

822
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,840
It was really beautiful.
So he unscrewed the handles.

823
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,920
That was the last thing that happened.

824
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,600
Not a single thing left. Cleaned out.

825
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,960
So, how much did you spend
in total, summer of 1997?

826
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,000
Oh, I don't know.
I could do a rough estimate.

827
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:01,680
The boat cost three, four million a week,
plus fuel and that sort of thing.

828
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,080
Um…

829
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,080
We had it for eight weeks, so…

830
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,800
Uh, 50 million, maybe?

831
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,920
Something like that. 40.

832
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,600
Was it worth it?

833
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:16,760
Yes it was.

834
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,720
How much were you paid
in total from Trustor?

835
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:23,960
I don't know the exact figure.

836
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,400
I'm so old now,
I can't remember the numbers.

837
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:30,960
If these guys hadn't been

838
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,520
gallivanting around
the French Riviera like fools,

839
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,160
they probably would have got away with it.

840
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,360
This is financial veteran Björn Björnsson.

841
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,720
He's been called the Terminator
of the business world.

842
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:44,800
FINANCIER

843
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,800
The industry's own sheriff.

844
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,640
I think they all wanted this.
Money, money, money.

845
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:53,720
But here's the problem, money talks.

846
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,040
Well, it might make you
look the other way.

847
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:03,280
Björn Björnsson ended up
taking on more roles than anyone expected.

848
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,120
His first role was
as a board member of Trustor

849
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,440
when the actual purchase was made.

850
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,960
When Lord Moyne stood as owner
of the A-shares in Trustor,

851
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,720
I assumed they'd been paid for.

852
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,320
But that evidently wasn't the case.

853
00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:26,320
You can't take 241 million
without it being noticed.

854
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,760
Sooner or later, you get caught.

855
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,160
There had to be more to the plan.

856
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,320
A master plan.

857
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,320
My long-term plan

858
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,640
was to build up and own
a corporate empire.

859
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:49,040
I was going to accomplish that
with a classic pyramid owner structure.

860
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:53,480
One company that owns another company
that owns a third.

861
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,960
If the first company was Trustor
at one billion,

862
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,720
and the second company
was worth five billion,

863
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,640
then the third could be worth ten billion.

864
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,680
After acquiring Trustor,

865
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,880
I used its money
to make my next acquisition.

866
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:09,960
THE SPORTS DIVISION
WILSON

867
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,320
First, I tried Wilson,
the international sports brand.

868
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,880
But the money came four days too late,
so the deal fell through.

869
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:23,480
That's how close I was to getting
the next company in place in my pyramid.

870
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,640
Team Moyne would acquire new companies

871
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:34,560
and sell off Trustor's assets.

872
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,680
When we got back
to the office in London after the summer,

873
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,440
everything was completely different.

874
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,120
Business as usual.

875
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,160
It was time to dust ourselves off
and wash the suits.

876
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:51,840
We had to get back to work
and start looking for new deals.

877
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,040
From my apartment in London
to the office,

878
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:59,640
I traveled every morning
by private chauffeur, in two cars.

879
00:53:59,720 --> 00:54:01,080
I rode in the front one,

880
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,360
and my briefcase
traveled in the one behind me.

881
00:54:05,720 --> 00:54:10,160
And when it came to showing up to work
on time, I wasn't overly concerned.

882
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,640
Thomas arrived on Tuesday
and went home on Thursday.

883
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:16,520
We argued that entire time.

884
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,280
Thomas had been my loyal henchman,

885
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,040
he had done everything for me,
and it was perfect.

886
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,480
Then he… lost his mind.

887
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,520
He sided with Peter Mattsson.

888
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,800
Suddenly, it was Thomas and Peter
who were a team,

889
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,480
when it used to be Thomas and me.

890
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,440
And I could tell
that I was starting to lose him.

891
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,040
My focus was on finding a solution

892
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,520
that would make
my ownership of Trustor legal.

893
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,200
Annual accounts were due on December 31st.

894
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,120
It was September. I had four months.

895
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,600
So I needed to keep Thomas
somewhat in check.

896
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,000
I think he was jealous

897
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,000
that he was not living it up
in high society like I was.

898
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,920
He wanted to do what I was doing.

899
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,080
If I said A, he said B,

900
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,960
just to make a point
that he also was important.

901
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,520
My entire control of Trustor
depended

902
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,040
on Thomas being between me
and the rest of the world.

903
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,560
I had entrusted him with being
the one who held the money.

904
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,760
The money sat in his account, not mine.

905
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,640
He suddenly had the power.

906
00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:27,320
Eventually, we just started shouting
at each other like children

907
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:28,600
in front of everyone.

908
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,640
So we had to start putting everything
to a vote.

909
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:37,080
Lord Moyne and Lindsay Smallbone
sat on the board. I had no role at all.

910
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,720
Then Thomas and Peter were busy trying to

911
00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:46,200
stop a journalist who had turned up.

912
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,800
I didn't think much of that at all.

913
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,160
It was just someone
who wanted to ask a few questions.

914
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:52,320
That's fairly normal after a large deal.

915
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,880
It was basically a coincidence.

916
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,920
I was very new at Svenska Dagbladet.

917
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,440
I was given various assignments.

918
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,840
Lord Moyne had just bought Trustor.

919
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,480
We came up with the idea
of doing an interview with him

920
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,840
and trying to profile him.

921
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,640
So I got started.

922
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:18,240
But when I called Trustor the next day,
he wasn't there.

923
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,760
I got put in touch with Richard Djursén,

924
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,440
who promised to… set something up for me.

925
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,200
I called Team Moyne,

926
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,320
and they came up with
one reason after another

927
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,440
to postpone the interview again and again.

928
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,320
The journalist was irritated,
to put it mildly.

929
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,120
At that time, it didn't occur to me
that it could be a fraud.

930
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,000
I just wanted insight.

931
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,280
The more he discovered,
the more curious he became.

932
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,280
Over time, I started to feel
that something wasn't right.

933
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,400
I had doubts about whether
Lord Moyne had any money.

934
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,320
And whether he really was the prominent
businessman of the Guinness family

935
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,680
that he had made himself out to be,

936
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,880
but rather the black sheep
of the Guinness family.

937
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,240
In my research, I had also learned
about Peter Mattsson's involvement

938
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:11,120
in a company that had swindled
wealthy Englishmen out of their fortunes.

939
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,280
Lindsay Smallbone had also run companies

940
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,640
and then taken money
for his own personal use,

941
00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:17,440
and things like that.

942
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,480
A band of thieves, basically.

943
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,480
I had no idea about any of this.

944
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,160
Their skeletons came tumbling
out of the closet,

945
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,360
all the things they had concealed from me
in order to be part of the deal.

946
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,640
The irony is that
if they had given me an interview

947
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,040
the next day when I first called,

948
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,840
there would never have been
any Trustor affair.

949
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,880
At least, not because of me.

950
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,560
Coincidences really can
affect the chain of events.

951
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,520
At the same time as the investigative
journalist started digging into the deal,

952
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,800
a British private investigator received
a new assignment.

953
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,080
For the last maybe 35 years or so,
I've been a fraud investigator.

954
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,080
PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR

955
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,560
It's not rocket science.

956
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,840
It's like cooking. Anyone can do it.

957
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,960
His assignment was to dig up dirt

958
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,360
on one of the parties in a legal dispute.

959
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,840
And that person happened to be…

960
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,960
Lindsay Smallbone, Trustor's new CEO.

961
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,720
The client said, "I want
to look into Lindsay Smallbone,

962
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,600
because I have a bone to pick with him."

963
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,800
"I'd like you to see who he really is,

964
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,360
because I think he's a cheat
and a crook and all that".

965
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,880
So we did the background search
on Lindsay Smallbone,

966
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:39,320
and found out that Lindsay was a director
of a company in Sweden called Trustor AB.

967
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:44,360
"So let's see what this company
he's a managing director of is."

968
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,520
I'm flicking through this file of Trustor.

969
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,720
There was something
just didn't seem right in that paperwork.

970
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:56,760
It looked like the payment was going to
the original owner, Norberg, afterwards.

971
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,480
And I thought, "Hang on a second."

972
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,440
"That doesn't make sense."

973
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,760
"Because you shouldn't be in control
of the company, and then pay the person."

974
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,680
"Something's wrong with this company."

975
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,200
"Something's really wrong."

976
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,160
The walls are closing in
from every direction.

977
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,320
An investigative journalist,

978
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,360
and on another front,
a private investigator,

979
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,440
and on top of that, the police.

980
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,920
Because, on the same day
the private investigator

981
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,720
stumbled across
the information about Trustor,

982
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,160
he had a meeting
with the financial crimes unit

983
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,320
on a completely different matter.

984
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,920
It was Friday, October 17th, 1997.

985
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,560
FORMER HEAD OF THE FINANCIAL CRIMES UNIT

986
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,720
Well, the meeting to see Jochum Söderström
was nothing to do with Trustor.

987
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,040
That's really important.
I just had it on my mind.

988
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,160
That day, an overly long phone call

989
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:54,600
would accidentally cause one
of Sweden's largest police investigations.

990
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,080
I arrived a bit
early, but Jochum, I could see,

991
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,520
in… in one… one
office was on the telephone.

992
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,840
I directed him to my colleague.

993
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,200
Nigel went over there,
they started talking,

994
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,240
and I continued my call.

995
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,240
So I was being shown this paperwork,
very privileged to see what they…

996
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:12,920
what they're gathering intelligence on.

997
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,680
And I just said, "This is small stuff."

998
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,920
"Big stuff is actually already happening,
but it's happening in open space,

999
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,160
being on the stock exchange."

1000
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,280
From my desk, I can see
that they're getting worked up.

1001
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,440
At that moment, Jochum had
already finished his phone call.

1002
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,320
He came and stood there, and went, "Nigel,
which company are you talking about?"

1003
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,760
He was able to tell me
it was the investment company Trustor.

1004
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,680
Everything happened between
about 12:30 and 6:00 in the afternoon.

1005
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,400
We're talking about six hours.

1006
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:45,240
And then I was out.

1007
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,440
It was a sheer coincidence
that we learned about this whole thing.

1008
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:53,640
This became the starting gun
for us to launch the intelligence work,

1009
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,800
and to work towards
a preliminary investigation.

1010
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,600
Nigel also told us there was a journalist

1011
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,520
who had already been in contact with them.

1012
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,680
So I decided we should call him in
to see what he knew.

1013
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,520
So we made a deal.
"I give you information,

1014
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,920
and you give me information."

1015
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,200
I knew a very damning newspaper article

1016
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,080
was going to come out
at the end of October.

1017
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:31,000
But I didn't know the police
had started an investigation.

1018
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,920
At the time, I had already booked a trip

1019
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,680
with my daughter and my girlfriend.

1020
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,400
It was the first time my daughter and I
would be able to go somewhere together.

1021
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,600
Because I'd been in prison,
I'd missed four of her five years.

1022
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,240
Those important years of changing diapers

1023
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,400
and being there to comfort her
when she needed it.

1024
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,560
This was our chance to get a fresh start.

1025
01:01:56,080 --> 01:02:00,680
So I decided to go anyway.
We went to Barbados for a week.

1026
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,520
It was important to work quickly.

1027
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,400
We had to focus on what happened
and who did what.

1028
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,360
It didn't take long until we discovered

1029
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,080
that Lord Moyne was flat broke.

1030
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,520
At the same time,

1031
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,880
we looked into the Swedes,
Peter Mattsson and Thomas Jisander.

1032
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,880
Did they perhaps have any credit cards?

1033
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,320
Yes, indeed they did.

1034
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:36,040
A massive amount of money
had been spent in Saint-Tropez,

1035
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,080
buying cases of champagne,

1036
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:39,600
renting helicopters,

1037
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,080
renting a boat.

1038
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,600
They were really living it up out there.

1039
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,040
We knew we were onto something here.

1040
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,800
We contacted the central bank of Sweden

1041
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,040
to see whether any more money
had gone abroad.

1042
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,920
We had discovered that over 600 million

1043
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,800
had been paid out to a mysterious account

1044
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,240
at the Barclays Bank in London.

1045
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:08,280
They also told us that the account balance
was almost zeroed out.

1046
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,240
We realized this was serious.

1047
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,680
Police, as well as the journalist,

1048
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,560
found out that all members
of Team Moyne were abroad.

1049
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,320
The plan was uncovered.

1050
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:31,160
There was a lot of back and
forth before the article was published.

1051
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,400
Were the facts correct?

1052
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,200
We had to double check everything
and be absolutely sure.

1053
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,920
Then Gunnar Lindstedt
published his article.

1054
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,040
And that was it.

1055
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,000
THE POLICE INVESTIGATE TRUSTOR DEALS

1056
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,320
POWER STRUGGLE INSTIGATED LORD

1057
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,320
PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE TRUSTOR PLOT

1058
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,880
Team Moyne began to panic in London.

1059
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:03,440
They were demanding answers to lots
of questions that I can't even remember.

1060
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,000
We went back and forth.

1061
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,440
I was asked
to look into this, deny that.

1062
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:08,400
All sorts of stuff.

1063
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,960
We went to the Trustor offices.

1064
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,840
Richard Djursén was there.

1065
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,800
We sat down to talk to Djursén.

1066
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:21,000
After a while,
he just broke down completely.

1067
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,960
We needed to find the person
who was in charge of this deal.

1068
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,280
Three people were part
of the lord's entourage.

1069
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,320
Peter Mattsson, Thomas Jisander,

1070
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,120
and then there was Joe Falk.

1071
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,320
We knew nothing about him.

1072
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,320
According to my sources,
this was a key character.

1073
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,880
Who is Joe Falk?

1074
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,280
He clearly held a prominent position.

1075
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,000
Who was Joe Falk?

1076
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:58,560
EUROCARD - ADDITIONAL ORDER

1077
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,240
That evening, Richard Djursén calls me

1078
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,520
and tells us, "Check out
Thomas Jisander's cousin."

1079
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,360
We checked the criminal records.

1080
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,600
And who did we find? Joe Falk.

1081
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:18,000
His real name was Joachim Posener.

1082
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,880
As I prepared for the Trustor deal,

1083
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,280
I sometimes used made-up names,

1084
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,560
such as Joakim Rolfsson,

1085
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,960
uh, Ralph Jobe, and Joe Falk.

1086
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:43,320
I didn't want anyone to associate
the name Joachim Posener with Trustor.

1087
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,160
While I'm in Barbados,

1088
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,760
my life falls apart.

1089
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,880
I remember I was having lunch
on a sun deck by the pool.

1090
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,360
A waiter approaches.

1091
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,240
"Mr. Posener, there's a call for you."

1092
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:07,560
He points at a telephone there. It was
back when we had those, on the wall.

1093
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:11,320
I expected bad news,
but… nothing like that.

1094
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,560
I pick up the receiver.

1095
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,720
-And Thomas is on the line saying…
-Hello?

1096
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,120
"Jocke, listen carefully."

1097
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,400
"The police raided us."

1098
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:30,200
"They've launched a preliminary
investigation. What's that?" I asked.

1099
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,520
He said, "Well, it's not good."

1100
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,040
No, it was not.

1101
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,280
I realized it was over right away.

1102
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,360
We had to act quickly,
since there was a risk

1103
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,960
that the money might disappear
once they realized what was happening.

1104
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,080
Time was up.
The police were banging on the door.

1105
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:52,920
They were already inside.

1106
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:59,200
And one image in my head.
The high-security prison in Norrtälje.

1107
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,600
I had a video camera. And, uh…

1108
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:09,000
My girlfriend was filming me
at the world's most amazing restaurant.

1109
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,120
My daughter said something to me
and I answered her,

1110
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:13,920
but we talked past each other.

1111
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,280
I was just not there. It was over.

1112
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:20,360
Ahem.

1113
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,760
At this point,
a lot of things were happening at once.

1114
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,480
So, I left Barbados on October 31st.

1115
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,800
That same day, the Svenska Dagbladet
published their article

1116
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,440
and the police raided Trustor.

1117
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:39,920
Thomas was waiting for me at Heathrow
Airport when we arrived from Barbados.

1118
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,680
I sent my girlfriend and daughter
back to Sweden.

1119
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,760
My girlfriend was supposed
to sort out a few things

1120
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,160
and then come back and join me.

1121
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,720
One of those things
was to go to Thomas's place,

1122
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,600
where I had left a few things,

1123
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:54,480
and get rid of them.

1124
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,120
She succeeded… partly.

1125
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:00,640
She left a notebook behind.

1126
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,880
So when the police
searched Thomas Jisander's home,

1127
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:12,120
they found several pieces of information
that linked Joachim Posener to the deal.

1128
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:19,880
In Jisander's apartment, we found
documents and plans for the crime.

1129
01:08:20,440 --> 01:08:21,800
HOW HE PLANNED TO TAKE OVER TRUSTOR

1130
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:27,000
It also confirmed that
Joachim Posener was the mastermind.

1131
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,160
When it became known
that over 400 million was missing

1132
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:33,840
from Trustor's accounts…

1133
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,960
Thomas knew a few people in Geneva.

1134
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,720
"They've got a solution, Jocke."
And off we went.

1135
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,920
Thomas had arranged a meeting

1136
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,480
with the Mafia's bankers.

1137
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,520
Both were called Ricardo,
and they were both Italians.

1138
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,160
They had bodyguards with them.

1139
01:08:55,240 --> 01:09:00,640
I realized straightaway that they were
involved in organized crime in Italy.

1140
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:06,120
I was under the impression
that they would present a solution

1141
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,080
that would help me keep Trustor.

1142
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:12,240
But their solution was that they would
buy Trustor and take over Trustor.

1143
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,120
No, we didn't meet them.

1144
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,160
There was no meeting
with Joachim and R1 and R2.

1145
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:20,640
No, no.

1146
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,280
I don't think he's ever met them.

1147
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,880
Thomas was in a state of panic.

1148
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:29,040
Well, we all were.

1149
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:31,880
In his state of panic,

1150
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,880
he wanted to pass the hot potato to them,

1151
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,600
and cover that 400 million shortfall.

1152
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,440
I don't recall that.

1153
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:42,440
Uh…

1154
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:43,360
No.

1155
01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:45,960
He thought he could bring
a bank statement to Sweden,

1156
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,440
and show them that the 400 million
was still there.

1157
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:53,240
And that Ricardo and Ricardo
were the new owners of Trustor.

1158
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,720
They wanted to pick the company clean.

1159
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,440
I didn't want that.

1160
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,880
Because I realized that I'd be
held accountable for that too.

1161
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,960
So I declined right there and then,
and we left.

1162
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,080
That was the last time I saw Thomas.

1163
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,600
I was only interested
in owning the company.

1164
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,120
But, since the police were involved,

1165
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:20,800
I knew that that ship had sailed.

1166
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,320
It was not going to happen.

1167
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,440
That's when I left Trustor.

1168
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,920
When I left Geneva, I was done with it.

1169
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,680
I had split my share of the Trustor deal

1170
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,560
across three different bank accounts.

1171
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,360
One of them was in Israel.

1172
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,040
I was concerned that my accounts
would be frozen

1173
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:41,680
and the funds confiscated.

1174
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,320
I thought I'd withdraw the cash, hide it,
and then I'd return home.

1175
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,640
I went to an internet café
and followed the news.

1176
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,160
My picture wasn't on the news yet.

1177
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,400
I called a few trusted friends at home.

1178
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,680
But I didn't contact my family.

1179
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,440
I realized they'd be
under police surveillance.

1180
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:04,560
Became really paranoid.

1181
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,080
Since everyone on Team Moyne was abroad,

1182
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:15,120
the police had to focus their efforts on
the few people they could find in Sweden.

1183
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:21,560
For me, it all clicked into place
over the All Saints' weekend that year.

1184
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,680
My wife and I were driving
down to Skåne

1185
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,880
with a trailer carrying random things.

1186
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:32,280
Hmm, bikes and a lawnmower,
things for the summer house.

1187
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:34,760
And then the phone rang.

1188
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,440
I was a little more irritable than usual.

1189
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,160
I answered, "Hello?"

1190
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:40,480
"Is this Björnsson?"

1191
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,440
"Of course it is," I said.
"Who the hell else would it be?"

1192
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,400
"This is the Federal Crime Police."

1193
01:11:45,480 --> 01:11:48,000
I did a U-turn.

1194
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,000
I started driving back and they said…

1195
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,040
"We'd like to hold
an interview with you this evening."

1196
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,760
"Okay," I said, "I'll be there
as fast as I can," and then I hung up.

1197
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,800
I drove as fast as I could
from Österlen to Stockholm.

1198
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,560
And when I got there,
I was cross-examined for three hours.

1199
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,240
I was a suspect initially.

1200
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,680
I was furious, to be honest with you.

1201
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,080
This always gives me a hard time.

1202
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:17,080
The police also spoke
to vice president Richard Djursén.

1203
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:22,160
It was a few hours before I was set
to go on my honeymoon to Mauritius.

1204
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,920
Uh, I had spoken to the police
and everything seemed fine.

1205
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,360
They let me go to Mauritius.

1206
01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:29,240
It was not a fun vacation.

1207
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,600
All the journalists kept calling me, since
no one else was picking up the phone.

1208
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,160
From what I understand,
Lindsay Smallbone will be explaining,

1209
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,360
uh, later today,

1210
01:12:38,440 --> 01:12:40,680
how the funds have been invested,

1211
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,520
what's happened with the money that is…

1212
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:47,080
or rather, the money
that is not at Barclays Bank.

1213
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,520
Oh! In hindsight,
it was a disastrous vacation.

1214
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,240
I was only ever
the vice president in name only.

1215
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,360
That was just
a title that I've been given.

1216
01:13:00,440 --> 01:13:04,720
In the day to day, I was more
of an errand boy, I would say.

1217
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,480
Djursén just couldn't keep his mouth shut.

1218
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:08,680
He just kept yapping.

1219
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:12,600
Had Lindsay Smallbone and Lord Moyne
been a bit more crafty,

1220
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:16,720
they could have easily accessed
the account themselves to rectify things.

1221
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:21,040
There was no stopping him.
He kept creating new problems.

1222
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,960
I've been dragged into something
that really has nothing to do with me.

1223
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:29,280
It went so far that some
of my friends called and said,

1224
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,120
"Don't talk to journalists."

1225
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:34,840
"It's obvious that you've been drinking
and you're on live TV."

1226
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,040
So who appointed you?

1227
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:39,480
Uh…

1228
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,800
Well, officially,
I suppose it was the, uh…

1229
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,360
uh, the board, I think?

1230
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:50,360
Disaster.

1231
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:52,440
We're still married, so that's good.

1232
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,080
Whoo-hoo!

1233
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:57,920
I was in Israel,

1234
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,000
and just watching this story grow bigger.

1235
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,680
THE BRAINS BEHIND THE COUP

1236
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,920
And bigger. And bigger.

1237
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:05,960
HUNTED FOR THE MILLION KRONOR COUP

1238
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,440
And I was on every front page.

1239
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:08,600
POLICE INVESTIGATE COMPANIES

1240
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:09,640
HUNT FOR POSENER

1241
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,560
The collapse was amazing.

1242
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:18,360
I mean, page after page
of the British press.

1243
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,160
I mean, everything stopped, so quickly.

1244
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,680
One day, it was business.

1245
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,360
Next day, finito.

1246
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:35,040
A week after the affair came to light,

1247
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,560
Thomas Jisander and Peter Mattsson
left the Riviera

1248
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,720
and returned to Sweden.

1249
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,520
The two of them had intended
to face the press,

1250
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,760
but they ended up in custody instead.

1251
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,600
CAME TO FACE THE PRESS
BUT ENDED UP IN CUSTODY

1252
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,960
I was like, "Man, what's the big deal?"

1253
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,400
"Why don't they just ask their questions?"

1254
01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:55,400
"Let's open a bottle of wine
and talk it out."

1255
01:14:55,480 --> 01:14:57,720
PROSECUTOR DETAINED
BOTH JISANDER AND MATTSSON

1256
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,760
We were there all of 15 minutes at most.

1257
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,760
And that was it, done. Detained.

1258
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:08,400
Everyone in Team Moyne was
immediately removed from their positions.

1259
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:09,600
FORCED TO RESIGN - DETAINED

1260
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,520
And Joachim Posener
was arrested in absentia.

1261
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,160
DETAINED IN ABSENTIA

1262
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,720
Meanwhile, Björn Björnsson
took on his second role in Trustor.

1263
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:17,640
BOARD MEMBER

1264
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,120
He was appointed the new CEO
while this was happening.

1265
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,520
It was an extremely messy week
when this all blew up.

1266
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,800
The first thing I did as CEO

1267
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,720
was to try and wrap my head around
what actually happened.

1268
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:32,840
NEW CEO, TRUSTOR

1269
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:39,200
In late fall, early winter,
Björn Björnsson got in touch

1270
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,240
and we met at the lawyer's office.

1271
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,600
I sat there and told him
everything I knew.

1272
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,320
That Team Moyne was intending
to sell some of Trustor's assets

1273
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,120
at far too low a price to a previous
majority shareholder, Norberg.

1274
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,240
SECRET AGREEMENTS
WOULD GIVE NORBERG 80 MILLION EXTRA

1275
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:58,560
I prevented that, and in doing so,
I saved Trustor a lot of money.

1276
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,840
Well, you can be a useful idiot.

1277
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:07,520
But that doesn't excuse your actions.

1278
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:12,240
I saw a vice president
who could not do his job properly.

1279
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,320
It was obvious that he'd have to go.

1280
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:21,160
Despite telling them
everything I knew, I was fired.

1281
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,440
It was so humiliating.

1282
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,600
That time at Trustor was…

1283
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:37,920
It's still hard.

1284
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,200
POSENER FALK, JOACHIM RALPH
GROSS BREACH OF TRUST

1285
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:45,280
The last trace
of Joachim Posener was from November 1997.

1286
01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:48,080
He moved around Europe,

1287
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:53,000
paid in cash and stayed in hotels
using aliases.

1288
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,200
He managed to board a plane
to South America,

1289
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,400
days before
an international warrant was issued.

1290
01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:01,560
INTERNATIONAL ARREST WARRANT

1291
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,440
I did know somebody
in the Stockholm criminal world,

1292
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,080
and he knew somebody in South America.

1293
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:23,160
These people are well-organized
and highly dangerous.

1294
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,200
I proceeded to buy what I later learned

1295
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,120
is known as a "legend"
in the world of spies.

1296
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,600
So, a shell of a person that you assume.

1297
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,600
They can take decades to create.

1298
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,720
And just like that… I was a new man.

1299
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:43,720
Should I turn at the next corner?

1300
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:48,200
Yes, keep going straight
and then you're going to make a right.

1301
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,080
I became another person,
who already existed.

1302
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,320
Look at his face. It's so swollen.

1303
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,640
Actually, it's gone down a bit.

1304
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,440
These people hid me
in a small village in Brazil.

1305
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,400
I lived there for many years.

1306
01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:08,840
-Hello!
-Hello!

1307
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,240
-Is that you?
-Who is that?

1308
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:11,160
Uh-huh.

1309
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:15,440
I spent a lot of time
in a favela, the local slum.

1310
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:22,520
Police never went there.
You don't go there uninvited.

1311
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:29,120
The territory was controlled
by a drug cartel,

1312
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,120
and they had soldiers stationed
at every entrance.

1313
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:34,920
Nobody would find me there.

1314
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:48,080
Good evening. First, the most recent
developments in the Trustor saga.

1315
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,720
During the fall of 1997,

1316
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,800
news anchors in colorful ties continued
to report on the Trustor saga.

1317
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,160
Looting of funds.

1318
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,560
The looting of Trustor assets
worth hundreds of millions.

1319
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,360
Everybody talked of "looting".

1320
01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:05,320
The looting of investment company
Trustor's assets might never be resolved.

1321
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:06,600
THE MOST BRAZEN LOOTING

1322
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,120
One question remained unanswered.

1323
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,920
Where is the money from Trustor?

1324
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,440
OH MY LORD, WHERE'S THE MONEY?

1325
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,080
Around 400 million was missing.

1326
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:26,160
I had used 240 million
to pay former owner Norberg.

1327
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:31,880
The money had been converted
into shares and pledged to bank.

1328
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:36,040
So when the police were looking
for the money… it's there, as shares.

1329
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:43,120
There had been speculation about
how much I had made from the Trustor deal.

1330
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,000
I paid myself ten million in total.

1331
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:48,960
That is the true figure.

1332
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,520
That may not be what people
were expecting, but it was ten million.

1333
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,160
I was planning to take out
ten million a year in salary.

1334
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,920
That was the plan
for the long term, anyway.

1335
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:07,400
But half of the ten million
was frozen by the police and Trustor,

1336
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,640
so I never even got
the full amount of that.

1337
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,280
And then there was Thomas.
So, he got five million,

1338
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,000
but he wasn't happy with that.

1339
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,160
My understanding is that
he took another 90 million.

1340
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,160
But that happened behind my back.
It didn't go through me.

1341
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:27,800
What mattered to me was paying back
the 20 million

1342
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,200
to the Swedish gangsters I owed.

1343
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:34,440
That way, I wouldn't be in their debt and
wouldn't have any problems in the future.

1344
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,120
And 70 million went
to various expenditures.

1345
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:43,920
Uh, salaries, travel expenses,
office rentals,

1346
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,960
compensation to Lord Moyne,
Lindsay and Peter.

1347
01:20:47,480 --> 01:20:50,240
Sure, I bought Trustor,
but I didn't loot the company.

1348
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,240
You clearly looted its assets

1349
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:54,960
by first buying it with its own money,

1350
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,920
and then using the accounts
for furnishings, offices, travel expenses…

1351
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,480
But if I write… If I write…

1352
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,040
uh…

1353
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,160
an invoice, that's not looting assets.

1354
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:05,480
It's a business expense.

1355
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,320
I had bought a company,
I didn't rob anyone.

1356
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,880
So if you're saying
it's not stealing, then what is it?

1357
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:15,080
I bought the company
using an unauthorized loan.

1358
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:18,000
That's it.

1359
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:32,040
This is where we live.
We're in the kitchen.

1360
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,240
I'm boiling some water

1361
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:40,520
for breakfast.

1362
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,480
Sorry I couldn't be bothered to clean!

1363
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,800
The dishwasher can't handle it all.

1364
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:49,600
We went out to buy some bread.

1365
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,760
I lived off the money
from Trustor for about three years.

1366
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,880
Life on the run is very expensive.

1367
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:03,680
So is buying a new identity
and not being able to work.

1368
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:08,720
It's expensive,
pretending to be somebody else.

1369
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:11,520
I've seen a lot of this view.

1370
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:15,640
In order to avoid being found,

1371
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,680
you need to look completely different
from what people expect.

1372
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:22,960
So curly, black-haired Joachim
shaved his head.

1373
01:22:23,480 --> 01:22:26,800
Chubby Joachim became fit Joachim.

1374
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,840
I swapped glasses for contacts.

1375
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,600
I obviously never went home.

1376
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:32,560
That would have been idiotic.

1377
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:34,040
First, I stayed in Brazil,

1378
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,680
but when the media found out about Brazil,

1379
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:38,320
I had already moved back to Europe.

1380
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:47,480
While Joachim was on the run,
there were many reports.

1381
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:51,800
The media kept claiming
that they'd finally found him.

1382
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:57,600
The police believe that a picture taken
by a tourist in South Africa

1383
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,680
is the wanted Joachim Posener.

1384
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,040
They published this picture of Joachim.

1385
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:05,400
Those of us who knew him saw right away
that, "Jesus Christ, that's not him."

1386
01:23:05,480 --> 01:23:09,600
If true, the seven-year-long manhunt
may have some life again.

1387
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,160
"Have we finally found him?"

1388
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,120
"Is this the end of the manhunt?"

1389
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,640
HOW POSENER'S FOOLING THE POLICE

1390
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:20,760
Various facial composites were created.

1391
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:25,200
Oh, my God. There were probably
50 people who those could have been.

1392
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,680
Hold on, where did I put it?

1393
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,640
Is this it?

1394
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:44,400
Okay, here it is.

1395
01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:46,960
There's a lot in here. Check this out.

1396
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:48,520
Newspaper clippings.

1397
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:50,440
There's a ton of them.

1398
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,320
They used the worst picture
they could find.

1399
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,200
I found that insulting, actually.

1400
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,320
This is a nicer picture.

1401
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,520
It doesn't embarrass me.

1402
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:13,360
Such bullshit.

1403
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,640
Six months after the Trustor scandal,

1404
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,320
I had a one-year-old son
and newborn twins.

1405
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,880
I had no job, all my accounts were frozen,

1406
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,520
and nobody would touch me
with a ten-foot pole.

1407
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,800
I had to sell the house.

1408
01:24:38,440 --> 01:24:41,600
We moved into
a small rental apartment in Hägersten.

1409
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,280
My life changed completely.

1410
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,600
I lost everything. Except my family.

1411
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:53,720
I wanted to take revenge
on all those people who'd hurt me.

1412
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,320
And I was most angry with Björn Björnsson,

1413
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,320
because he threw me under the bus.

1414
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,560
Because of that, I wanted to end him.

1415
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,760
I drove around where he lives
in Djursholm, by his house.

1416
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:11,520
He doesn't know about this.

1417
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:17,680
So as I was driving around there
in my car… and…

1418
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:19,840
And this is so crazy.

1419
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,800
At one point, I could have written a book

1420
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:28,360
on 300 different ways of killing somebody
without getting caught.

1421
01:25:28,440 --> 01:25:32,440
Everything from buying a wood chipper
and putting the corpse in,

1422
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,000
then spreading the remains at sea
for the fish to eat.

1423
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:40,200
You need to dispose of the body somehow.

1424
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,640
There was no Google at the time,

1425
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:46,000
but you could still find out
how to cremate stuff.

1426
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,280
It's done with high heat, of course.

1427
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:50,800
You can build it yourself.

1428
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:54,360
I was going to rent a cabin
in northern Sweden

1429
01:25:54,440 --> 01:25:57,600
and build one of those cremation furnaces

1430
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,000
where all traces are destroyed.

1431
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,640
I sat here watching
Björn Björnsson's house.

1432
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:11,920
I drove around checking
different escape routes in his area

1433
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,680
that would allow me to get away quickly.

1434
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,720
I thought I needed to turn myself in.

1435
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:20,960
I called psychiatric services in Nacka.

1436
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:25,640
I told them that I thought
I needed to be committed,

1437
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:28,640
since I was considering killing someone.

1438
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,800
You only have such violent thoughts
when you're depressed.

1439
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,840
Do you still have
those thoughts, or are they gone?

1440
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,040
No, not at all. They're long gone.

1441
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,280
Shit, I didn't start crying. That's weird.

1442
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:47,280
Oh, dear.

1443
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,120
I thought I was gonna be crying
the whole time.

1444
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:55,360
No.

1445
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:02,400
As long as I'm talking and keep going,
it's fine.

1446
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:04,480
I can keep from crying.

1447
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:07,320
But actually…

1448
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,080
No, forget it.

1449
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:22,560
Mm-hmm.

1450
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,800
It's tragic to see how he's ended up.

1451
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,240
Even considering where he's from.

1452
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,680
But he seems to be doing all right.

1453
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,000
He's driving a Porsche
and he has a nice house.

1454
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:43,920
He's doing well financially.

1455
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,720
STOCKHOLM DISTRICT COURT
2001

1456
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:50,520
Today saw the start of the trial

1457
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:54,600
of those involved in the looting
of company assets from Trustor.

1458
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,040
Financial crime is hard to prove,

1459
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,640
and becomes even more complicated
when committed abroad.

1460
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,480
In this case,
the key figure was also missing,

1461
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,760
which meant that the legal proceedings
were doomed to fail.

1462
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,600
Lindsay Smallbone was not prosecuted,
and walked free.

1463
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:15,840
New Zealand has no
extradition agreement with Sweden.

1464
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:18,760
Lord Moyne was prosecuted,

1465
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:24,040
but claimed that some of the signatures
on the Trustor documents were not his.

1466
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,280
He also walked free.

1467
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:29,120
Why were you important for them?

1468
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,520
Name. The name.

1469
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,520
I'm bankrupt. Uh, it's as simple as that.

1470
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,480
Peter Mattsson and Thomas Jisander

1471
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:43,840
were initially convicted
by the district court.

1472
01:28:44,440 --> 01:28:46,440
I was sentenced to five years in prison,

1473
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:50,960
given a nine-year ban on business activity
and had to pay 100 million in damages.

1474
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,560
But they appealed the decision.

1475
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,400
This time around, we were better prepared.

1476
01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:00,920
FRESH START IN TRUSTOR CASE

1477
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,800
Since the key figure was missing,

1478
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:06,560
it became convenient to blame him.

1479
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:07,880
During the trial…

1480
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:09,080
"WE WERE TRICKED BY POSENER"

1481
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,280
…they came up with the most absurd
arguments for their innocence.

1482
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,200
THE PROSECUTED BLAME EVERYTHING ON POSENER

1483
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:17,120
The prosecutor claimed to have found
documents

1484
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,840
on the computer that they discovered
in my apartment.

1485
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,280
But who used that computer?

1486
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:27,680
We brought in a technical expert,
who demonstrated to the court

1487
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:30,560
how easy it is
to access a computer remotely.

1488
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,560
We were able to prove
that that was a possibility.

1489
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:35,920
And then it was in the hands of the court

1490
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,560
and evidently,
they believed it was possible as well.

1491
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:41,720
Today they were acquitted
by the court of appeal.

1492
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:46,600
There was not enough evidence against
Thomas Jisander and Peter Mattsson.

1493
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:48,480
It's been incredibly tough,

1494
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,400
but it's with tremendous relief
I can say that, luckily,

1495
01:29:51,480 --> 01:29:52,960
there is justice in this world.

1496
01:29:53,040 --> 01:30:00,040
TRUSTOR SCANDAL VILLAINS WALK FREE

1497
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:10,760
Joachim Posener
was never convicted. He just vanished.

1498
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:14,040
-And… we've not heard from, or seen…
-Fore!

1499
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:15,840
Sorry.

1500
01:30:16,440 --> 01:30:18,760
He's gone up in smoke, so to speak.

1501
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:25,600
I left the police force.
I needed to try something different.

1502
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:28,200
I started working at a golf club.

1503
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,200
It obviously haunts me

1504
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:35,200
that we never caught Joachim Posener.

1505
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,040
What the…

1506
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:40,440
It would give closure,
an ending to it all.

1507
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:43,840
That's how I feel.

1508
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:50,160
I find it strange that you can
stay away for 30 years,

1509
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,920
not see your family, and constantly
having to look over your shoulder.

1510
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,440
It must be like losing your identity.

1511
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:11,560
Being in hiding means I have
been able to live a life on my own terms.

1512
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,880
Where I live, nobody calls me Joachim…

1513
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:16,880
Bonjour!

1514
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,240
Charlie, how are you, my friend?

1515
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:21,200
-How are you?
-Good to see you!

1516
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:22,480
See you soon.

1517
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,040
…despite the fact
that I regained my passport

1518
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:29,400
and my real name a long time ago.

1519
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,080
What's your life like?

1520
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,320
I live kind of

1521
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,560
a Bohemian lifestyle.

1522
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:49,520
There.

1523
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,480
Not in my native country,

1524
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,480
not even in my wife's native country.

1525
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:59,960
One foot in society and one outside.

1526
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:03,760
Do I need to make a living?

1527
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:04,880
Definitely.

1528
01:32:05,480 --> 01:32:10,280
I have worked with what I know best,
as a consultant and advisor.

1529
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:12,840
But in the shadows.

1530
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:23,840
What do you want people to know about you?

1531
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,560
It was never about the money.

1532
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:29,040
It was about the challenge.

1533
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:32,840
The adrenaline you get
from such deals is my drug.

1534
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:37,280
Yeah, it can be hard to stop
once you've started.

1535
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:42,280
-Have you got a family?
-Yes. A wife and two kids.

1536
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,120
-Girls or boys?
-Girls.

1537
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:45,840
Can you see them?

1538
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,320
-I live with my youngest.
-Ah.

1539
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:51,920
And I've promised not to talk
about my other daughter.

1540
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:54,240
How old are they?

1541
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:59,120
The youngest is 15,
and the older one is 32.

1542
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:03,040
The same age as me.
Then I could be your daughter.

1543
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:05,080
Yes, actually.

1544
01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:15,440
The biggest victim might be your daughter.

1545
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,840
-Yeah.
-What are your thoughts?

1546
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:20,360
It is extremely sad and tragic.

1547
01:33:20,440 --> 01:33:22,640
But I wouldn't have, uh…

1548
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:28,000
I would have gone insane if I had
to spend another ten years in prison.

1549
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:30,920
I just couldn't do it.

1550
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,440
Given how things turned out,

1551
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:37,720
you've lived in hiding and lost contact
with your family and your daughter.

1552
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:39,160
Was it worth it?

1553
01:33:40,440 --> 01:33:41,680
That's a very complicated…

1554
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:45,160
That's a very simple,
yet complicated question, because…

1555
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:50,360
Had I not done the Trustor deal, I would
not have been married to my current wife,

1556
01:33:50,440 --> 01:33:54,080
I would not have the child I have
and live with today.

1557
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:57,400
Was it worth not spending
another ten years in prison?

1558
01:33:57,480 --> 01:33:58,480
Definitely.

1559
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:04,000
And what about the price
that your family in Sweden had to pay?

1560
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,440
It was worth it for me,
but maybe not for them.

1561
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,880
And perhaps the most
absurd consequence of the whole affair,

1562
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:21,240
Trustor's shareholders profited big time.

1563
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:24,680
In order to understand this,

1564
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:28,680
we need to look at Björn Björnsson's
third and last role,

1565
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:33,160
as the liquidator tasked
with winding down Trustor.

1566
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:37,120
Our mission was to recover
as much money as possible.

1567
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:39,960
Pay off all the debts,
sell all the assets.

1568
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:43,600
Whatever was left
went to the shareholders as dividends.

1569
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:45,840
150 MIL INVESTED AT THE
STOCKHOLM STOCK EXCHANGE

1570
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:50,360
The liquidators found money
in Team Moyne's accounts around the world.

1571
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:55,560
Thomas Jisander was ordered
to pay back 65 million in a settlement.

1572
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:59,000
The banks involved were sued
for substantial amounts.

1573
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:00,880
BARCLAYS BANK
SUED FOR HALF A BILLION KRONOR

1574
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:04,200
And Trustor's undervalued assets
were sold.

1575
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,400
So despite the missing money,

1576
01:35:09,480 --> 01:35:12,800
the value of the shares doubled
after the scandal.

1577
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:16,080
THE TRUSTOR SCANDAL
IS REVEALED

1578
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:22,680
It's ironic,
but the shareholders got a good deal.

1579
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,120
Crimes had been committed,

1580
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,200
but the establishment lost out.

1581
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:35,800
The taxpayers paid the bill for
the work carried out by the authorities.

1582
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:38,960
And everyone involved walked free.

1583
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:41,120
Well, nearly everyone.

1584
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:45,800
As some say, why follow the law,

1585
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:48,080
when you can treat it as a guideline?

1586
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:54,840
I'm doing great now.

1587
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:55,880
Um…

1588
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:57,680
Just dandy.

1589
01:35:58,400 --> 01:35:59,800
I've got a good life.

1590
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:02,000
I've worked hard.

1591
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:06,400
I've started businesses
that have done really well.

1592
01:36:06,480 --> 01:36:09,080
I've sold businesses and made a fortune.

1593
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:16,360
I am now financially independent
and can do whatever I want.

1594
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:28,120
As I've said before,
"Who remembers a coward?"

1595
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:34,440
Every red cent I got out of Trustor
is long gone.

1596
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:38,400
It was impossible to predict

1597
01:36:38,480 --> 01:36:41,960
that I would earn as little
from this deal as I ultimately did.

1598
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:55,480
After Trustor,

1599
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:59,480
I knew that I had made my mark
on the world.

1600
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:03,480
That was satisfying.

1601
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:08,640
But what drove me to it
is no longer in me.

1602
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:11,680
The freedom I sought through money

1603
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,480
has been replaced
with another kind of freedom.

1604
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:16,720
One where no one can control me.

1605
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,240
And I choose where I want to be.

1606
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:24,800
And also when I want to vanish.

1607
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:34,720
The crazy thing is that Thomas
got in touch with me during the trial…

1608
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:38,440
and asked me,

1609
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:40,480
"Can we do it again?"

1610
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,160
THOMAS JISANDER WAS SENTENCED
YEARS LATER

1611
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:52,560
TO A SHORT PRISON TERM

1612
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:54,760
FOR INCITEMENT TO GROSS EMBEZZLEMENT

1613
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:57,920
"IT WAS A WONDERFUL

1614
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:00,080
SIX-MONTH SPA EXPERIENCE!"

1615
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:04,320
LORD MOYNE'S FAMILY INFORMED US

1616
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,680
THAT HE CAN'T TAKE PART
DUE TO HEALTH REASONS

1617
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,120
PETER MATTSSON, HOWEVER, HASN'T REPLIED

1618
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:13,000
LINDSAY SMALLBONE HAS PASSED AWAY

1619
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:17,840
NAPOLEON'S DESK HAS NOT BEEN FOUND

1620
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:25,720
A FILM BY
KARIN AF KLINTBERG

1621
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,440
Just have a look at my fire.

1622
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:52,320
Magical fire!

1623
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:55,800
Several people have looked and said,
"Oh, what a lovely fire."

1624
01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:57,960
Thinking it's a real fire.