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Good morning.
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Oh. Hey. Morning.
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Everyone's gathered.
We're all ready if you are.
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Yeah, let's do it.
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You need that?
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Oh. Hey, uh,
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listen, Aaron...
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Thanks for letting me
set this up.
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But the whole team really
didn't need to be here.
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I'm the one
that owed the favor.
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Everyone insisted.
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How you doing?
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Sorry...what?
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You ok?
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
No, I'm great.
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I'm good. Uh...
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I'll meet you over there
in a minute, ok?
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It's rare that an
undergraduate criminology class
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gets guest speakers
of this caliber.
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But today
we're specially fortunate.
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I'd like to welcome
an old friend,
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esteemed author
and FBI Agent David Rossi,
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and his team,
the Behavioral Analysis Unit.
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Now, they've agreed to spend
an hour of their valuable time
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talking about what they do
and how they do it.
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So let's make them
feel welcome.
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Thank you, Dr. Grant.
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Now, when she said
I was an old friend,
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she was just referring
to the fact
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that we've known each other
for a very long time.
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Now, as the good
Professor said,
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I am supervisory
Special Agent Rossi.
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These are SSAs Jareau,
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Prentiss,
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Hotchner, and Morgan.
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This is Dr. Spencer Reid.
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And on keyboards today
we have our technical analyst
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Ms. Penelope Garcia.
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Hi.
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Now, in simple terms,
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at the BAU we use
behavioral science,
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research, casework,
and training
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to hunt down monsters.
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Rapists, terrorists,
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pedophiles,
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and our specialty,
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serial killers.
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Does anybody here know
exactly what a serial killer is?
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Someone who's committed
more than one murder.
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That's very good.
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By statute,
3 is the magic number.
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And it's actually more qualitative
than quantitative for us.
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And today we're going
to talk about how some
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serial killers get made.
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Because if you can
understand that,
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then you can figure out
a way to catch them.
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Garcia.
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My liege.
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Ok, this is Rachel Moore,
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a 17-year-old runaway
from Spokane, Washington.
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Now, she grew up poor
and in a broken home.
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Her mom left her dad because he
liked to drink and beat on her.
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And this is Tina Dyson,
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a 19-year-old college
student from Seattle.
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Now, she was
a trust fund kid,
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and she got straight As
and came from a loving family.
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Now, these two girls
couldn't be any more different.
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But the one thing
that they had in common
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is they both crossed paths
with the most prolific serial killer
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the BAU has ever seen.
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One thing you should understand
is that no two killers are the same.
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They each occupy their own point
on the behavioral spectrum.
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Genetics, brain chemistry,
psychology, and environment
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are all factors.
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But we believe that
this particular killer
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grew up in an environment
so adverse
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that he never had a chance.
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Bastard!
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He endured years of
cruel and abject physical abuse.
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As well as horribly
profound psychological abuse.
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No. No!
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When he wasn't being
ignored, he was being humiliated.
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Let me in!
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Let me in! Let me in!
Please!
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Now let me be clear.
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Most abused kids do not
turn into killers.
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Not even all psychopaths
become killers.
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But this particular
unknown subject,
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or unsub,
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suffered extreme abuse,
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and it has everything to do
with why he does what he does.
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Now, these are some
of his victims.
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He kidnapped them,
he restrained them,
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and he starved them
for days.
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Then he killed them by mutilating
their reproductive organs.
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Right now we know there are
at least 40 of them.
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But we believe that he may
eventually claim over 100 victims.
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Now, we chose this case
for today
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because we've been
discovering bodies
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up and down the West Coast
since 1992.
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For lack of a better word,
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it's a classic.
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This unsub's entire childhood
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was a crucible,
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and in it, a psychotic
killer was forged.
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# Criminal Minds 7x22 #
Profiling 101
Original Air Date on May 9, 2012
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The philosopher
Voltaire wrote,
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"to the living we owe respect,
but to the dead
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we owe only the truth."
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The dead are the cornerstone
of every homicide investigation.
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Victims give us a look
into the killer's mind.
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If you want to know
about a hunter,
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study his prey.
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Ok, so the unsub's
first victims
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were discovered two weeks apart
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in 1992 in Seattle.
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The first victim that was found
was Rachel Moore.
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She was the runaway.
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Her body had been thrown
into a dumpster in an alley.
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The medical examiner said
that she was very malnourished
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and really dehydrated.
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The ligature marks
on her wrists and ankles
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made it apparent that she'd
been restrained for days.
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He held her,
but he didn't feed her.
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So she's weak.
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It's his sadistic way
to subdue her.
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Several defensive wounds
on her hands and forearms.
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She put up
a hell of a fight.
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That a girl.
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53 stab wounds to the lower
abdomen and genitals.
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The damage made it
impossible to determine
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if there was
any sexual assault.
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That might be a forensic
countermeasure.
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Here's my report.
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Stay as long as you need.
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Her mother should be here
in an hour.
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A hell of a way to see her
after 2 years.
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53 stab wounds.
That's a lot of work.
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Does anyone want to tell me
what they think that means?
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Hatred?
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Frustration.
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He's angry.
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You're all correct.
It's called overkill.
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Typically it means the murder
was personal somehow.
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That, or the unsub
is psychotic
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and/or prone to
violent outbursts.
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The overkill may also show
his inexperience.
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This was probably
his first kill,
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and he was feeling his way
through it, working out his M.O.
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But there's a lot about Rachel
that tells us about the unsub.
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She was young,
so most likely he was, too.
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What makes you think that?
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She lived in a shelter
and had a part-time job,
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so she was a street kid,
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but not necessarily
the reckless type.
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She wouldn't just
go off with anyone.
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Yeah, Warden, it's Rossi.
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What?
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Riot?
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W-w-w-wait.
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Look, he's not gonna
give me a rain check.
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I have to see him today.
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So the unsub maybe
lured her with a ruse
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or he blitz attacked her,
he took her by surprise.
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Now, either one of these would
be easier if you were young.
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You can tell all that
from just one victim?
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I'd say it was two weeks later
when we found the second victim
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that we started
to piece that together.
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Tina Dyson was home for the
summer when she disappeared.
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Her body was found in a shallow
grave just outside of Seattle.
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But it was actually
her abduction site
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that gave us the answers
we needed.
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Tina and two
of her friends had fake I.D.s
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and they decided to go
to a local grunge bar.
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But they drank
too much and Tina got sick,
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so while one friend
was inside dancing,
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the other went out
to hold Tina's hair.
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It's all right.
Come on.
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I'm gonna go get Janice, ok?
We're going home.
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Ohh...Good, yeah.
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Ohh...Ohh...
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You ok?
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Yeah. Jeez,
what are you, a ninja?
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Where'd you come from?
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So his anger is obviously
directed at women.
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Yes, but the real
question is why,
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and the why is what always
leads us to the who.
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I need to talk to you.
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He was attacking their genitals
and reproductive organs.
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Why?
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Was he impotent
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and hates the thing
that he can't have?
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Did his wife or girlfriend
abort a child?
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It's a federal prison, Dave.
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We can't just call them up
and tell them what to do.
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You have to know someone
in justice who can pull some strings.
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I've got to see him today,
Aaron. You know that.
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The possibilities
are endless.
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And the unsub was figuring
it all out for himself, too.
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We know that because
he was evolving.
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He started with a runaway,
a victim with a high-risk lifestyle.
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He probably knew that her abduction
would go unreported.
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Then he upped his game
and grabbed a college girl,
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which meant more risk
for himself.
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He dumped his first victim
Rachel in an alley,
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but he took the time
to bury Tina,
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which suggests he felt
more connected to her
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and perhaps he even
felt remorse.
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Did you ever
catch this guy?
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Uh, what's your name,
young man?
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David Zimmerman.
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Don't interrupt, Zimmerman.
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Now, we, uh, we knew
we needed to warn the public,
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so we contacted the media,
papers, local news.
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That was back before
the Internet exploded.
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And then, as will happen
from time to time,
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the case went completely cold.
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We didn't hear from him
again until 1997.
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Two bodies were found
in Golden Gate Park,
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in San Francisco.
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Same M.O.
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Evidently our guy.
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Excuse me, I'm looking
for the case Agent.
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That would be me.
Agent Rossi, I'm Agent Hotchner,
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Seattle division.
We spoke on the phone.
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Uh, I inherited the case
from Agent Bidwell.
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Thanks for coming so quickly.
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Yeah, I hopped the first
flight from Dulles.
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Came straight from
the airport.
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With bad food.
That's a long trip.
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Let me show you
what we found.
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A jogger discovered the first
body dumped in the bushes
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about 30 yards
over the road here.
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The M.E. said that she'd
been there almost a month.
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Any critters get to her?
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We had to use dental records
to identify her. Watch your step.
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So we did a search
of the area
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and we discovered the second
body in this shallow grave.
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She'd been here
less than a week.
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So, he dumped the first one
and buried the second.
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Just like he did in '92.
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The first victim...
was she a runaway?
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25-year-old prostitute
and crack addict.
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The second?
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A 27-year-old
mother of two.
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Both women had had
their reproductive organs
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completely removed.
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Not just mangled.
He's evolving.
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Sounds like he's moving
more toward ritual.
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And apparently he's not
locked into an age preference.
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00:12:09,704 --> 00:12:12,538
The victims seem to be
aging along with him.
255
00:12:12,540 --> 00:12:13,923
What about stomach contents?
256
00:12:13,925 --> 00:12:16,793
The victims were dehydrated
and hadn't eaten in days.
257
00:12:16,795 --> 00:12:19,045
My guess is he hasn't been
back in Seattle in a while.
258
00:12:19,047 --> 00:12:20,680
What makes you say that?
259
00:12:20,682 --> 00:12:23,049
He needs someplace private
to hold them.
260
00:12:23,051 --> 00:12:24,416
He might live close.
261
00:12:24,418 --> 00:12:26,602
Dumping a body
in a public park is risky.
262
00:12:26,604 --> 00:12:30,256
It tells me that
he's comfortable, settled in.
263
00:12:30,258 --> 00:12:32,343
He might even have chosen
this spot to be able to come
264
00:12:32,368 --> 00:12:34,278
back and relive the kills.
265
00:12:34,279 --> 00:12:36,262
You've done your homework,
Agent.
266
00:12:36,264 --> 00:12:38,798
5 years is a long time
to be dormant.
267
00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,983
He wasn't dormant.
268
00:12:40,985 --> 00:12:43,988
A killer that vicious
is like a drug addict
269
00:12:44,013 --> 00:12:45,205
that needs a fix.
270
00:12:45,206 --> 00:12:47,623
We were fairly certain
that he had kept on killing.
271
00:12:47,625 --> 00:12:49,458
We just hadn't
found the bodies yet.
272
00:12:49,460 --> 00:12:51,794
Now, we knew
that back in '92
273
00:12:51,796 --> 00:12:54,247
when the media went wide
with the story,
274
00:12:54,249 --> 00:12:58,835
our unsub got spooked
and he disappeared.
275
00:13:00,671 --> 00:13:03,639
So we tried to get
in front of it,
276
00:13:03,641 --> 00:13:06,726
meaning that if we could control
the spread of information,
277
00:13:06,728 --> 00:13:09,178
we might be able to keep the
unsub from fleeing again.
278
00:13:09,180 --> 00:13:11,314
But back then
the BAU was still young.
279
00:13:11,316 --> 00:13:14,867
We didn't have press liaisons
or technical analysts.
280
00:13:14,869 --> 00:13:16,243
By the time
we contacted the media,
281
00:13:16,268 --> 00:13:18,159
the story had already broken.
282
00:13:24,611 --> 00:13:26,445
A symbol
of the American west...
283
00:13:26,447 --> 00:13:28,114
a lone coyote hunts
for prey.
284
00:13:28,116 --> 00:13:30,917
Agent Rossi, are you making
any progress in the investigation?
285
00:13:30,919 --> 00:13:32,201
Quite a bit, yes.
286
00:13:32,203 --> 00:13:34,086
So do you have
any solid leads?
287
00:13:34,088 --> 00:13:35,037
Several.
288
00:13:35,039 --> 00:13:36,956
Agent Rossi, can you
confirm the rumors
289
00:13:36,958 --> 00:13:39,325
that the Womb Raider
disembowels his victims?
290
00:13:39,327 --> 00:13:40,659
Excuse me?
291
00:13:40,661 --> 00:13:42,461
Can you confirms
the rumors that the womb...
292
00:13:42,463 --> 00:13:44,380
Oh, I'll confirm
something for you.
293
00:13:44,382 --> 00:13:46,883
Womb Raider is a name
that you gave him.
294
00:13:46,885 --> 00:13:49,001
I won't glorify him.
I call him a murderer.
295
00:13:49,003 --> 00:13:51,103
Then exactly how
is he killing them?
296
00:13:51,105 --> 00:13:53,439
My only concern
is capturing him
297
00:13:53,441 --> 00:13:56,275
and bringing closure
to the families of the victims.
298
00:13:56,277 --> 00:13:57,676
No further questions.
299
00:14:11,331 --> 00:14:12,781
"Womb Raider."
300
00:14:12,783 --> 00:14:15,250
I hoped the nickname
would embolden him.
301
00:14:15,252 --> 00:14:19,505
Thought maybe he would escalate
and trip on his own hubris.
302
00:14:19,507 --> 00:14:22,374
But, um, that didn't happen.
303
00:14:22,376 --> 00:14:24,793
Unfortunately, he vanished just like
he'd done before
304
00:14:24,795 --> 00:14:26,278
and the trail
went cold again.
305
00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,629
We did everything we could.
306
00:14:27,631 --> 00:14:30,466
We had every division
up and down the West Coast
307
00:14:30,468 --> 00:14:32,801
scouring
missing person reports.
308
00:14:32,803 --> 00:14:36,588
A lot of possibilities,
but no clear hits.
309
00:14:36,590 --> 00:14:39,107
In the meantime,
Agent Rossi retired,
310
00:14:39,109 --> 00:14:41,109
but the BAU grew.
311
00:14:41,111 --> 00:14:43,312
We trained more profilers,
312
00:14:43,314 --> 00:14:45,898
hired tech analysts,
press liaisons,
313
00:14:45,900 --> 00:14:47,599
and we even got
our own resident genius.
314
00:14:47,601 --> 00:14:49,535
Thank you.
Thank you.
315
00:14:51,939 --> 00:14:53,789
Agent Rossi,
why did you retire?
316
00:14:54,908 --> 00:14:57,042
That's a good question.
317
00:14:57,044 --> 00:15:00,111
Well, the simple answer
is I needed a change.
318
00:15:00,113 --> 00:15:02,381
I was working on my
third divorce, and...
319
00:15:02,383 --> 00:15:03,448
Third?
320
00:15:03,450 --> 00:15:05,551
Yes, Zimmerman,
my third.
321
00:15:06,921 --> 00:15:09,120
So I needed a break,
and I figured writing books
322
00:15:09,122 --> 00:15:11,790
might help give me
some peace of mind.
323
00:15:11,792 --> 00:15:14,593
Did it?
Give you peace of mind?
324
00:15:14,595 --> 00:15:16,762
For a time, yes.
325
00:15:16,764 --> 00:15:19,470
In 2005, we got another hit
on the unsub,
326
00:15:19,495 --> 00:15:20,433
this time in Los Angeles.
327
00:15:20,434 --> 00:15:22,935
We knew it was him
because of his signature.
328
00:15:22,937 --> 00:15:24,436
Sorry, what's a signature?
329
00:15:24,438 --> 00:15:26,572
It's a rare combination
of M.O. and ritual
330
00:15:26,574 --> 00:15:29,575
that allows us to link cases over
time and geographic distances.
331
00:15:29,577 --> 00:15:32,828
Her name was Lana Cooper.
She was a 33-year-old prostitute.
332
00:15:32,830 --> 00:15:36,949
Her body was found by a boy
walking his dog in Griffith Park.
333
00:15:36,951 --> 00:15:40,652
Ligature marks on her wrists
and ankles. She was restrained.
334
00:15:40,654 --> 00:15:42,454
And he gave her
a complete hysterectomy.
335
00:15:42,456 --> 00:15:46,258
The uterus, ovaries,
fallopian tubes, all removed.
336
00:15:46,260 --> 00:15:49,011
A little crude, but he cut all
the right ligaments.
337
00:15:49,013 --> 00:15:50,512
He knew what he was doing.
338
00:15:50,514 --> 00:15:52,014
What about her throat?
339
00:15:52,016 --> 00:15:55,017
That was done postmortem.
He cut out her vocal cords.
340
00:15:55,019 --> 00:15:57,519
Might be a symbolic way
of keeping her silent.
341
00:15:57,521 --> 00:16:00,138
So she was alive when he
performed the hysterectomy.
342
00:16:00,140 --> 00:16:02,107
Anything in her stomach?
343
00:16:02,109 --> 00:16:04,359
Dry as a bone.
She hadn't eaten in days.
344
00:16:04,361 --> 00:16:05,944
So he starved her, too.
345
00:16:05,946 --> 00:16:07,379
That's
a pretty specific M.O.
346
00:16:07,381 --> 00:16:08,897
This probably isn't
his first victim.
347
00:16:08,899 --> 00:16:11,283
I wonder if we should be looking
at doctors and medical students.
348
00:16:11,285 --> 00:16:12,951
It's definitely
not his first victim.
349
00:16:12,953 --> 00:16:15,404
I don't think he's a doctor
or a medical student.
350
00:16:15,406 --> 00:16:17,706
No.
Calling Gideon?
351
00:16:17,708 --> 00:16:20,042
The first call I made
was to Agent Rossi.
352
00:16:20,044 --> 00:16:21,460
I knew he was writing his book,
353
00:16:21,462 --> 00:16:26,465
but I didn't want to start
to build a profile without him.
354
00:16:26,467 --> 00:16:29,668
A profile is personality
and identifying characteristics
355
00:16:29,670 --> 00:16:33,022
of the unsub which helps
the investigator narrow
356
00:16:33,047 --> 00:16:34,206
down the suspect pool.
357
00:16:34,207 --> 00:16:35,841
Basically it's a behavioral
description
358
00:16:35,843 --> 00:16:38,810
of the type of person
we think the unsub might be.
359
00:16:38,812 --> 00:16:40,012
It goes a little like this...
360
00:16:40,014 --> 00:16:42,014
we were looking for
a white male
361
00:16:42,016 --> 00:16:43,932
in his early to mid-30s.
362
00:16:43,934 --> 00:16:47,319
We think he was antisocial
and had low self-esteem,
363
00:16:47,321 --> 00:16:48,887
so he probably
kept to himself.
364
00:16:48,889 --> 00:16:50,439
But he needed money,
365
00:16:50,441 --> 00:16:53,273
so he was most likely
a day laborer, a janitor,
366
00:16:53,298 --> 00:16:54,393
maybe a handyman.
367
00:16:54,394 --> 00:16:56,227
Anything menial
and temporary.
368
00:16:56,229 --> 00:16:58,614
He was personable enough
to get a job wherever he went,
369
00:16:58,616 --> 00:17:01,533
but unassuming enough
not to stick out.
370
00:17:01,535 --> 00:17:03,669
He held and restrained
his victims for days,
371
00:17:03,671 --> 00:17:06,237
so he would need
a contained space to do that.
372
00:17:06,239 --> 00:17:09,074
But he was also mobile. That
meant he had his own transport.
373
00:17:09,076 --> 00:17:11,076
Most likely a truck
or a van.
374
00:17:11,078 --> 00:17:14,129
And when he was on the move
and not settled,
375
00:17:14,131 --> 00:17:15,580
he probably lived
out of that vehicle.
376
00:17:15,582 --> 00:17:17,099
We knew he always
started with a victim
377
00:17:17,101 --> 00:17:18,767
who lived a high-risk
lifestyle,
378
00:17:18,769 --> 00:17:21,103
like a prostitute
or a runaway.
379
00:17:21,105 --> 00:17:24,556
And then he moved on to a victim
with a low-risk lifestyle.
380
00:17:24,558 --> 00:17:27,119
So we knew his next kill
would be something of
381
00:17:27,144 --> 00:17:29,144
a soccer mom in her 30s.
382
00:17:30,481 --> 00:17:33,117
I'm sorry, but what exactly
was he doing with the organs
383
00:17:33,142 --> 00:17:34,534
he was removing?
384
00:17:34,535 --> 00:17:36,952
We didn't know. It could have been
some sort of fetish.
385
00:17:36,954 --> 00:17:38,453
Russian serial killer
Andrei Chikatilo
386
00:17:38,455 --> 00:17:40,288
actually ate the uterus
of one of his victims.
387
00:17:40,290 --> 00:17:41,740
Oh, my God, eew.
388
00:17:41,742 --> 00:17:43,575
This focus on
reproductive organs
389
00:17:43,577 --> 00:17:46,169
could also indicate
a deep-seated sense
390
00:17:46,194 --> 00:17:47,380
of self-loathing.
391
00:17:47,381 --> 00:17:49,915
He might have hated
the fact that he was born.
392
00:17:49,917 --> 00:17:51,833
Or he had some sort of traumatic
life-changing event
393
00:17:51,835 --> 00:17:53,284
associated with birth.
394
00:17:53,286 --> 00:17:56,421
And he could have hated
his own mother.
395
00:17:56,423 --> 00:17:59,111
The strained mother-child
relationship is a hallmark
396
00:17:59,136 --> 00:17:59,976
for many killers.
397
00:17:59,977 --> 00:18:01,426
That doesn't make any sense.
398
00:18:01,428 --> 00:18:03,428
I hate myself
or I hate my mother,
399
00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:06,898
so I kill women
by ripping out their wombs?
400
00:18:06,900 --> 00:18:09,217
It only needs
to make sense to him.
401
00:18:09,219 --> 00:18:11,937
One man's logic
is another man's crazy.
402
00:18:11,939 --> 00:18:13,939
What's the deal with
the vocal cords?
403
00:18:13,941 --> 00:18:15,607
That was something new.
404
00:18:15,609 --> 00:18:17,809
We thought it might have been
symbolic of his own silence.
405
00:18:17,811 --> 00:18:19,811
He was raised to believe
he was worthless and unwanted,
406
00:18:19,813 --> 00:18:21,780
so essentially
he never had his own voice.
407
00:18:21,782 --> 00:18:24,266
His victims became
surrogates for his rage
408
00:18:24,268 --> 00:18:28,403
and a means by which
to exact his revenge.
409
00:18:38,798 --> 00:18:41,967
We stayed in L.A. for 6 weeks
and worked the case.
410
00:18:41,969 --> 00:18:43,969
And then it went cold,
again.
411
00:18:43,971 --> 00:18:46,004
No low-risk soccer
mom turned up,
412
00:18:46,006 --> 00:18:47,639
no soccer moms
went missing.
413
00:18:47,641 --> 00:18:49,441
Then our resources
were exhausted,
414
00:18:49,443 --> 00:18:51,843
we had other cases,
so we were forced to leave.
415
00:18:51,845 --> 00:18:54,629
But I rented a house
in the Hollywood Hills
416
00:18:54,631 --> 00:18:57,032
and decided to finish
my book out there.
417
00:18:57,034 --> 00:19:00,606
I figured if I was close
I could lend a hand
418
00:19:00,631 --> 00:19:02,271
if something happened.
419
00:19:02,272 --> 00:19:05,574
3 months I stayed and nothing.
420
00:19:08,077 --> 00:19:10,962
Now, in the past
he packed up and moved
421
00:19:10,964 --> 00:19:13,415
when the story broke
and we got too close.
422
00:19:13,417 --> 00:19:15,751
But this time
the media was quiet.
423
00:19:15,753 --> 00:19:19,638
The victim was a hooker
nobody cared about.
424
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,807
So, what drove him under?
425
00:19:21,809 --> 00:19:25,210
It would be 4 years
before we got another break.
426
00:19:25,212 --> 00:19:29,848
Not too long after,
I came out of retirement.
427
00:19:33,319 --> 00:19:34,486
What?
428
00:19:34,488 --> 00:19:36,988
Rochelle Jenkins,
a 40-year-old prostitute
429
00:19:36,990 --> 00:19:38,523
was found dumped
in an alley in Seattle.
430
00:19:38,525 --> 00:19:40,492
She was given
a complete hysterectomy.
431
00:19:40,494 --> 00:19:43,528
Her vocal cords
were cut out, too.
432
00:19:43,530 --> 00:19:46,081
He's back where he got started.
433
00:19:46,083 --> 00:19:49,034
He'll be on the hunt for a
low-risk victim in her 40s next.
434
00:19:49,036 --> 00:19:52,370
I wonder
what brought him home.
435
00:19:52,372 --> 00:19:54,573
It's a long trip.
We should get going.
436
00:19:54,575 --> 00:19:57,676
But this time
we were ready for him.
437
00:19:57,678 --> 00:19:59,928
We wanted to use the press
to our advantage.
438
00:19:59,930 --> 00:20:03,849
So we came up with what's called
a targeted media strategy.
439
00:20:03,851 --> 00:20:05,967
Agent, is it true
you have a suspect in custody?
440
00:20:05,969 --> 00:20:07,519
Yes, he's being
questioned as we speak.
441
00:20:07,521 --> 00:20:10,305
Can you tell us
how you apprehended him?
442
00:20:10,307 --> 00:20:13,558
With good police work,
especially from the Seattle P.D.
443
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,310
and the Washington State Patrol.
444
00:20:15,312 --> 00:20:17,263
Is it true that the killer's
been on the loose
445
00:20:17,288 --> 00:20:18,397
since the early nineties?
446
00:20:18,398 --> 00:20:20,982
That remains to be seen,
but we do believe
447
00:20:20,984 --> 00:20:22,617
we can link him
to several murders.
448
00:20:22,619 --> 00:20:25,603
Thank you. Now, if you'll excuse us,
we've got work to do.
449
00:20:25,605 --> 00:20:26,905
So you did catch him.
450
00:20:26,907 --> 00:20:31,409
No. But we wanted him to think
we caught the wrong guy.
451
00:20:31,411 --> 00:20:32,377
Why?
452
00:20:32,379 --> 00:20:34,296
To give him a false
sense of security.
453
00:20:34,298 --> 00:20:37,090
If he thinks we messed up,
then maybe he relaxes
454
00:20:37,115 --> 00:20:38,634
and makes a mistake.
455
00:20:38,635 --> 00:20:41,136
That, or he gets angry
because he thinks someone else
456
00:20:41,138 --> 00:20:42,587
is stealing his thunder.
457
00:20:42,589 --> 00:20:44,172
Either way,
the aim of the strategy
458
00:20:44,174 --> 00:20:46,007
is the throw the killer
off course.
459
00:20:46,009 --> 00:20:47,843
Otherwise, all we're doing
is reacting to him,
460
00:20:47,845 --> 00:20:50,896
and we needed him
to react to us.
461
00:20:50,898 --> 00:20:52,764
Lord knows I love him, but here's
to a night without him.
462
00:20:52,766 --> 00:20:55,066
Husbands, too.
To the kids.
463
00:20:55,068 --> 00:20:56,268
Ok, fine, have it your way.
464
00:20:56,270 --> 00:20:58,320
We're too old for this.
465
00:20:58,322 --> 00:20:59,688
Speak for yourself.
466
00:20:59,690 --> 00:21:03,775
Ok, ladies, bottoms up,
lick, drink, suck. Yeah?
467
00:21:05,745 --> 00:21:07,112
Mm!
468
00:21:07,114 --> 00:21:09,247
Whoo-hoo!
Ha ha!
469
00:21:09,249 --> 00:21:11,649
She's whoo-hooing, you know
we're in for a long night.
470
00:21:12,836 --> 00:21:14,152
We need some more water.
471
00:21:14,154 --> 00:21:16,488
We should get another round.
472
00:21:18,041 --> 00:21:19,507
You're insane.
473
00:21:24,464 --> 00:21:27,048
Play date tomorrow?
Meet me at the park?
474
00:21:27,050 --> 00:21:29,100
Can't. Soccer game
and birthday party. Sunday?
475
00:21:29,102 --> 00:21:30,135
Ok.
Sure.
476
00:21:30,137 --> 00:21:31,353
You all right to drive?
477
00:21:31,355 --> 00:21:32,670
That drink was what,
478
00:21:32,672 --> 00:21:34,389
two hours and
a big dinner ago.
479
00:21:34,391 --> 00:21:36,507
I'm fine. Go.
Are you sure?
480
00:21:36,509 --> 00:21:37,508
Bye, sweetie.
481
00:21:37,510 --> 00:21:38,509
Bye, girls.
482
00:21:38,511 --> 00:21:39,561
I'll talk to you soon, ok?
483
00:21:39,563 --> 00:21:40,979
Ok.
Yes.
484
00:21:40,981 --> 00:21:42,814
Good night.
485
00:21:44,116 --> 00:21:46,818
Hey, honey.
I'm on the way home.
486
00:21:46,820 --> 00:21:48,203
How are the boys?
487
00:21:49,189 --> 00:21:52,357
Oh, it was fun.
Everyone says hi. Ok.
488
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,359
Love you, too.
489
00:21:54,361 --> 00:21:57,495
Bye.
490
00:22:17,901 --> 00:22:20,319
He's been moving south
this whole time.
491
00:22:20,321 --> 00:22:23,189
He could have gone east
or bounced back up north,
492
00:22:23,191 --> 00:22:25,191
but no, always south.
493
00:22:25,193 --> 00:22:27,026
Almost like he's running
from something.
494
00:22:27,028 --> 00:22:28,393
Well, he's running from us.
495
00:22:28,395 --> 00:22:30,746
But why go back home now,
after all these years?
496
00:22:30,748 --> 00:22:32,331
Something brought him back.
497
00:22:32,333 --> 00:22:34,166
Rochelle Jenkins
was in her 40s,
498
00:22:34,168 --> 00:22:35,701
so we can assume
he is, too.
499
00:22:35,703 --> 00:22:38,170
Ok, so why do people
come home at that age?
500
00:22:38,172 --> 00:22:41,123
Family, special occasions,
funeral.
501
00:22:41,125 --> 00:22:42,124
Wait a minute.
502
00:22:42,126 --> 00:22:44,293
You guys have your own jet?
503
00:22:44,295 --> 00:22:47,379
Yes, Zimmerman,
as a matter of fact, we do.
504
00:22:48,382 --> 00:22:49,432
Show them, Penelope.
505
00:22:49,434 --> 00:22:51,083
One second...
506
00:22:51,085 --> 00:22:52,935
Ok. There you go.
507
00:22:52,937 --> 00:22:54,437
Ooh...
Pretty sweet, huh?
508
00:22:54,439 --> 00:22:55,438
Yeah.
509
00:22:57,141 --> 00:23:00,109
Hey, guys, a missing persons
report just came in.
510
00:23:00,111 --> 00:23:01,944
42 years old, Grace Powell,
mother of two,
511
00:23:01,946 --> 00:23:03,546
went out for girls night,
never came home.
512
00:23:03,548 --> 00:23:05,064
That's gotta be him.
513
00:23:05,066 --> 00:23:07,450
Garcia, where did he
take her from?
514
00:23:07,452 --> 00:23:08,534
Um...
515
00:23:08,536 --> 00:23:11,036
I recognized the place
immediately.
516
00:23:11,038 --> 00:23:14,606
It was hard to forget.
517
00:23:14,608 --> 00:23:18,744
This is where he took
Tina Dyson from in '92.
518
00:23:18,746 --> 00:23:20,796
This restaurant
was a dive bar.
519
00:23:20,798 --> 00:23:22,798
A dive bar?
In this neighborhood?
520
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,283
Things were different then.
521
00:23:24,285 --> 00:23:25,768
He didn't
just come back home.
522
00:23:25,770 --> 00:23:27,553
He returned
to the exact same spot.
523
00:23:27,555 --> 00:23:30,639
But why here? What is it
about this place?
524
00:23:30,641 --> 00:23:33,542
It's where he grabbed
one of his first kills.
525
00:23:33,544 --> 00:23:35,711
The first ones
are always significant.
526
00:23:35,713 --> 00:23:38,063
And this is where my particular
skill set comes in handy.
527
00:23:38,065 --> 00:23:42,318
See, I am like one of those
wonderful people in prison movies
528
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,819
that can get you
anything you need.
529
00:23:43,821 --> 00:23:45,988
And we needed to know
everything there was to know
530
00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:47,773
about this particular
part of the city.
531
00:23:47,775 --> 00:23:49,191
So I went honey badger.
532
00:23:49,193 --> 00:23:51,861
I dug up police reports,
news articles,
533
00:23:51,863 --> 00:23:53,279
parking tickets, even.
534
00:23:53,281 --> 00:23:55,981
If anything went down
in that area in the last 40 years,
535
00:23:55,983 --> 00:23:57,316
I knew about it.
536
00:23:57,318 --> 00:23:58,617
And I found zip.
537
00:23:58,619 --> 00:24:00,252
Zero. Stingy with the dinero.
538
00:24:00,254 --> 00:24:02,654
Couple of Fender-benders.
A bar fight.
539
00:24:02,656 --> 00:24:04,840
There was a homeless guy
who was into mooning people,
540
00:24:04,842 --> 00:24:07,042
but no life-changers.
541
00:24:07,044 --> 00:24:09,828
So I extended my search
another 10 years
542
00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:11,330
and I found this.
543
00:24:12,665 --> 00:24:16,635
This is a police report
from 1966,
544
00:24:16,637 --> 00:24:18,971
where a 16-year-old girl
was found raped
545
00:24:18,973 --> 00:24:21,006
in a parked car
on that street.
546
00:24:21,008 --> 00:24:22,474
But she was a minor,
547
00:24:22,476 --> 00:24:24,059
so her name wasn't
listed on the report.
548
00:24:24,061 --> 00:24:26,729
Well, what's this girl
got to do with a serial killer?
549
00:24:26,731 --> 00:24:29,448
Pump your brakes, sweetcakes,
'cause I'm bringing it home.
550
00:24:29,450 --> 00:24:31,550
It turns out that Jane Doe,
instead of given a name,
551
00:24:31,552 --> 00:24:33,402
she was given a patient number.
552
00:24:33,404 --> 00:24:34,653
So I tracked that number,
553
00:24:34,655 --> 00:24:37,239
and it turned out that
she went back to that hospital
554
00:24:37,241 --> 00:24:39,842
several times after...
555
00:24:39,844 --> 00:24:41,827
for prenatal care.
556
00:24:41,829 --> 00:24:44,129
And she eventually
brought that baby to term.
557
00:24:50,353 --> 00:24:54,757
Aah!
558
00:24:54,759 --> 00:24:56,926
She hemorrhaged badly
during childbirth,
559
00:24:56,928 --> 00:24:59,461
and during her emergency
hysterectomy
560
00:24:59,463 --> 00:25:01,347
she died.
561
00:25:02,382 --> 00:25:04,433
It was at that point
that I was able to find
562
00:25:04,435 --> 00:25:06,385
the corresponding
death certificate
563
00:25:06,387 --> 00:25:08,153
and get her name.
564
00:25:08,155 --> 00:25:09,855
Georgina Yates.
565
00:25:09,857 --> 00:25:12,057
Her son Thomas Yates survived.
566
00:25:12,059 --> 00:25:14,326
He was put into the custody
of his grandparents
567
00:25:14,328 --> 00:25:17,029
Trudy and Roy Yates,
Georgina's parents.
568
00:25:17,031 --> 00:25:21,367
When we started
looking at Thomas...
569
00:25:21,369 --> 00:25:23,002
We knew.
570
00:25:23,004 --> 00:25:24,670
Growing up, he got
kicked out of two schools,
571
00:25:24,672 --> 00:25:26,956
both times for starting fires.
572
00:25:26,958 --> 00:25:28,907
Fire-starting
is the first part
573
00:25:28,909 --> 00:25:31,427
of what we used to call
the homicidal triad.
574
00:25:31,429 --> 00:25:34,746
The other two parts are
bedwetting and cruelty to animals.
575
00:25:34,748 --> 00:25:37,216
He was also in the emergency
room a lot as a kid.
576
00:25:37,218 --> 00:25:40,336
He had a broken arm, burns,
he broke a rib once.
577
00:25:40,338 --> 00:25:43,889
So he was either very clumsy
or he was being beaten.
578
00:25:43,891 --> 00:25:46,892
Then when he was 15,
he committed his first murder.
579
00:25:46,894 --> 00:25:51,263
He was a skinny kid who snapped
and stabbed a bully at school.
580
00:25:57,603 --> 00:26:00,239
He was convicted,
served 3 years in juvey,
581
00:26:00,241 --> 00:26:03,275
another 7 in prison, and then
he was released on parole.
582
00:26:03,277 --> 00:26:05,094
But when
he was on the inside,
583
00:26:05,096 --> 00:26:07,179
he spilled his guts
to the prison shrink.
584
00:26:07,181 --> 00:26:09,781
He talked about how his
grandmother would starve him
585
00:26:09,783 --> 00:26:11,266
and make him sleep
in the dog house.
586
00:26:11,268 --> 00:26:13,135
How she would
beat him senseless...
587
00:26:13,137 --> 00:26:14,470
I wish you were never born!
588
00:26:14,472 --> 00:26:16,005
And sit on him
until he couldn't breathe.
589
00:26:16,007 --> 00:26:17,122
You're a curse!
590
00:26:17,124 --> 00:26:18,757
I hate you!
591
00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:20,592
And you actually
believed this guy?
592
00:26:20,594 --> 00:26:23,062
The prison psychiatrist
concluded that Thomas
593
00:26:23,064 --> 00:26:24,847
was telling the truth.
594
00:26:24,849 --> 00:26:26,181
His childhood
medical records
595
00:26:26,183 --> 00:26:28,751
also corroborated
this story.
596
00:26:28,753 --> 00:26:30,569
And at that point we realized
it wasn't the mother
597
00:26:30,571 --> 00:26:32,738
but the grandmother
who was the object of his rage.
598
00:26:32,740 --> 00:26:34,973
I have Senator
Hendricks on the line.
599
00:26:34,975 --> 00:26:36,859
Then I find out
his grandfather had just died,
600
00:26:36,861 --> 00:26:38,861
and his grandmother
had lung cancer
601
00:26:38,863 --> 00:26:42,281
and she had just been
admitted into hospice care.
602
00:26:42,283 --> 00:26:47,302
And that is what
brought Thomas home.
603
00:26:55,828 --> 00:26:59,431
Excuse me, uh,
Mrs. Trudy Yates?
604
00:26:59,433 --> 00:27:00,933
Who are you?
605
00:27:00,935 --> 00:27:03,552
I'm Agent Prentiss. This is
Agent Jareau. We're with the FBI.
606
00:27:03,554 --> 00:27:06,171
FBI? You got
the right Trudy Yates?
607
00:27:06,173 --> 00:27:08,774
Yes, I'm pretty sure
we do, ma'am.
608
00:27:08,776 --> 00:27:10,309
You're Thomas' grandmother,
right?
609
00:27:10,311 --> 00:27:11,477
What about it?
610
00:27:11,479 --> 00:27:12,644
We're looking for him.
611
00:27:12,646 --> 00:27:15,564
Tommy? He in trouble?
612
00:27:15,566 --> 00:27:17,700
What'd he do this time?
613
00:27:17,702 --> 00:27:18,951
Do you know where he is?
614
00:27:18,953 --> 00:27:20,119
No idea.
615
00:27:20,121 --> 00:27:22,738
When was the last time
you saw him?
616
00:27:22,740 --> 00:27:25,357
The day he put me
in this damn place.
617
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,460
My daughter's womb
was cursed.
618
00:27:28,462 --> 00:27:31,246
That boy was a bastard
born in sin.
619
00:27:31,248 --> 00:27:34,166
Nothing good
comes out of sin.
620
00:27:37,170 --> 00:27:38,771
This is all we have.
Thank you so much.
621
00:27:38,773 --> 00:27:41,340
Please give us a call
if you think of anything else.
622
00:27:41,342 --> 00:27:42,508
Will do.
623
00:27:42,510 --> 00:27:44,009
Thank you.
624
00:27:50,384 --> 00:27:51,817
Baby, what can I do you for?
625
00:27:51,819 --> 00:27:53,685
Hey, mama, I need you
to run a number.
626
00:27:53,687 --> 00:27:57,156
206-555-0112.
627
00:27:57,158 --> 00:27:59,992
Okey-dokey. It is a prepaid
cell phone, hasn't been used in days.
628
00:27:59,994 --> 00:28:01,493
And what about this address?
629
00:28:01,495 --> 00:28:04,229
2334 Dawson Street,
unit K.
630
00:28:04,231 --> 00:28:06,832
Hold yourself, please.
631
00:28:09,869 --> 00:28:14,906
Unit K? He needs to be more
isolated than an apartment.
632
00:28:14,908 --> 00:28:16,741
It was a storage container.
633
00:28:16,743 --> 00:28:18,681
The same storage container
where his grandmother's
634
00:28:18,706 --> 00:28:20,706
stuff was being held.
635
00:28:38,698 --> 00:28:40,816
You smell that?
636
00:28:40,818 --> 00:28:43,435
It's coffee.
637
00:28:44,937 --> 00:28:47,489
FBI!
638
00:28:47,491 --> 00:28:49,124
Drop it.
639
00:28:52,445 --> 00:28:54,779
Thomas Yates,
you're under arrest.
640
00:28:58,968 --> 00:29:01,220
She's still got a pulse.
641
00:29:01,222 --> 00:29:03,622
Calling an ambulance.
642
00:29:03,624 --> 00:29:05,224
Agent Rossi.
643
00:29:05,226 --> 00:29:09,228
Nice to meet you
after all these years.
644
00:29:15,911 --> 00:29:18,553
We got Grace Powell
to the hospital in time
645
00:29:18,653 --> 00:29:19,702
and they saved her life.
646
00:29:19,704 --> 00:29:21,004
Though I'm not sure
647
00:29:21,006 --> 00:29:24,090
her psychological wounds
will ever heal.
648
00:29:24,092 --> 00:29:25,925
How come I've never
heard of this guy?
649
00:29:25,927 --> 00:29:28,544
Have you ever heard
of Efren Saldivar?
650
00:29:28,546 --> 00:29:29,545
No.
651
00:29:29,547 --> 00:29:31,597
David Parker Ray.
652
00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:34,217
How about
John Edward Robinson?
653
00:29:34,219 --> 00:29:38,471
See, at any given time,
we have at least 25 open cases.
654
00:29:38,473 --> 00:29:40,807
Every year we're able
to close around 15,
655
00:29:40,809 --> 00:29:43,559
yet new ones
still seem to pop up.
656
00:29:43,561 --> 00:29:46,813
There are more serial killers
out there than you may think.
657
00:29:46,815 --> 00:29:49,515
But we finally had Yates
in custody,
658
00:29:49,517 --> 00:29:52,702
and we questioned him
for two weeks straight.
659
00:29:52,704 --> 00:29:54,987
We all took turns.
660
00:29:54,989 --> 00:29:56,789
He didn't say a word.
661
00:29:56,791 --> 00:29:58,358
Never asked for
a bathroom break,
662
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,293
glass of water, nothing.
663
00:30:00,295 --> 00:30:02,795
I thought given his M.O.,
being female,
664
00:30:02,797 --> 00:30:05,998
I might be able to strike a nerve,
get him to open up,
665
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,368
but he just sat there,
for hours.
666
00:30:09,370 --> 00:30:11,504
Staying absolutely silent
under that kind of pressure
667
00:30:11,506 --> 00:30:14,173
was a skill he undoubtedly
learned as a child.
668
00:30:14,175 --> 00:30:15,675
He was rendered silent
for so long,
669
00:30:15,677 --> 00:30:17,477
it became
a conditioned response.
670
00:30:17,479 --> 00:30:19,762
But we had him
safely in custody.
671
00:30:19,764 --> 00:30:21,764
And we had other
cases to solve.
672
00:30:21,766 --> 00:30:24,550
Eventually Yates was tried and
he received the death penalty.
673
00:30:24,552 --> 00:30:26,686
And life went on.
674
00:30:26,688 --> 00:30:30,389
Then two years ago today...
675
00:30:30,391 --> 00:30:31,841
I got a call.
676
00:30:35,563 --> 00:30:37,196
Rossi.
677
00:30:37,198 --> 00:30:39,198
You have a call
from an inmate
678
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,666
in a correctional
facility.
679
00:30:40,668 --> 00:30:42,618
Inmate,
state your name.
680
00:30:42,620 --> 00:30:44,670
It's Tommy Yates.
681
00:30:44,672 --> 00:30:47,039
This call may be monitored
and recorded.
682
00:30:47,041 --> 00:30:48,741
Press 2 if you
accept the charges.
683
00:30:48,743 --> 00:30:50,093
If not, hang up.
684
00:30:50,095 --> 00:30:52,645
He called you personally?
How'd he get your number?
685
00:30:52,647 --> 00:30:54,197
Probably
from his attorney.
686
00:30:54,199 --> 00:30:55,465
What did he want?
687
00:30:55,467 --> 00:30:56,933
He wanted to make a deal,
688
00:30:56,935 --> 00:30:59,752
and I was the only one
he would make it with.
689
00:31:14,701 --> 00:31:17,537
Can we be alone, please?
690
00:31:30,551 --> 00:31:32,051
What do you want?
691
00:31:32,053 --> 00:31:33,553
Nice to see you, too.
692
00:31:33,555 --> 00:31:35,721
Why am I here, Yates?
693
00:31:35,723 --> 00:31:37,122
I told you.
694
00:31:37,124 --> 00:31:39,108
I want to make a deal.
695
00:31:40,894 --> 00:31:42,678
You're on death row,
696
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,016
not exactly a strong
negotiating position.
697
00:31:48,986 --> 00:31:52,137
I've got something
for you.
698
00:31:52,139 --> 00:31:54,139
It's a present.
699
00:31:54,141 --> 00:31:55,908
Open it.
700
00:31:55,910 --> 00:31:57,109
What is it?
701
00:31:57,111 --> 00:31:59,362
Open it and see.
702
00:32:02,499 --> 00:32:05,034
You shouldn't have.
703
00:32:08,822 --> 00:32:11,457
Surprise.
704
00:32:11,459 --> 00:32:14,460
Those are some
of the girls I took.
705
00:32:14,462 --> 00:32:18,097
The ones
you didn't find.
706
00:32:18,099 --> 00:32:20,750
There's 40 there.
707
00:32:24,805 --> 00:32:26,472
Why should I believe you?
708
00:32:26,474 --> 00:32:28,691
I thought
you might ask that.
709
00:32:28,693 --> 00:32:30,943
It's all
part of the deal.
710
00:32:30,945 --> 00:32:32,528
Look, let's get
something straight.
711
00:32:32,530 --> 00:32:33,863
There is no deal.
712
00:32:33,865 --> 00:32:34,864
Not yet.
713
00:32:34,866 --> 00:32:36,566
Not ever.
714
00:32:36,568 --> 00:32:40,019
There's actually
101 names.
715
00:32:40,021 --> 00:32:42,738
And I remember
all of them.
716
00:32:42,740 --> 00:32:45,791
And I'll tell you
where I put them.
717
00:32:45,793 --> 00:32:48,294
Here's what I want.
718
00:32:48,296 --> 00:32:50,913
One...no death penalty.
719
00:32:50,915 --> 00:32:53,249
I don't care
if I rot in here.
720
00:32:53,251 --> 00:32:56,052
But no chair
and no injections.
721
00:32:56,054 --> 00:32:59,422
2...I want a transfer
to the East Coast.
722
00:32:59,424 --> 00:33:02,508
Grandma's dead.
Nothing holding me here.
723
00:33:02,510 --> 00:33:07,930
Plus, I like the idea
of snow in the winter.
724
00:33:07,932 --> 00:33:10,049
Never really had that
growing up.
725
00:33:10,051 --> 00:33:14,320
I didn't come all this way
to get smoke blown up my ass.
726
00:33:14,322 --> 00:33:16,555
After I get my sentence
commuted
727
00:33:16,557 --> 00:33:18,190
and my transfer,
728
00:33:18,192 --> 00:33:20,026
I'll give you more names.
729
00:33:20,028 --> 00:33:22,078
But only one each year.
730
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,864
To keep you honest.
731
00:33:24,866 --> 00:33:26,666
You understand.
732
00:33:28,234 --> 00:33:29,702
Anything else?
733
00:33:29,704 --> 00:33:31,587
Yes.
734
00:33:31,589 --> 00:33:35,341
I get to decide
when you get the name.
735
00:33:35,343 --> 00:33:38,878
It'll be on a special day
of my choosing.
736
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:44,216
And you have to come
and get it from me personally.
737
00:33:44,218 --> 00:33:46,719
What do you say, Agent?
738
00:33:46,721 --> 00:33:49,805
Hmm?
739
00:33:49,807 --> 00:33:51,757
Deal?
740
00:33:55,479 --> 00:33:57,063
We checked the list
he gave us,
741
00:33:57,065 --> 00:33:58,614
and then we went out
to the locations
742
00:33:58,616 --> 00:34:00,483
where he said
he'd dumped the bodies,
743
00:34:00,485 --> 00:34:02,768
and we found all 40.
744
00:34:02,770 --> 00:34:05,771
Did you actually make a deal
with that maniac?
745
00:34:05,773 --> 00:34:07,773
We did.
746
00:34:07,775 --> 00:34:09,458
Not to bend to his will,
747
00:34:09,460 --> 00:34:12,745
but to bring the families
of the victims some peace.
748
00:34:12,747 --> 00:34:15,081
I'd been on the case
so long, I felt obligated
749
00:34:15,083 --> 00:34:18,084
to contact each
of the families personally.
750
00:34:18,086 --> 00:34:19,552
Mrs. Ruth Thomas?
751
00:34:21,838 --> 00:34:25,891
I'm Agent David Rossi
from the FBI.
752
00:34:25,893 --> 00:34:30,429
I have some information
about your daughter Sarah.
753
00:34:30,431 --> 00:34:34,100
I'm afraid I've got
bad news about Jessica...
754
00:34:38,488 --> 00:34:42,358
We found Chloe
two days ago in Griffith park.
755
00:34:45,029 --> 00:34:49,031
I can't tell you
how sorry I am for your loss.
756
00:34:55,339 --> 00:34:59,658
If I can do anything,
anything at all,
757
00:34:59,660 --> 00:35:02,661
please don't hesitate.
758
00:35:29,456 --> 00:35:33,859
Does it ever get hard
dealing with all that tragedy?
759
00:35:36,696 --> 00:35:38,164
You know, it's funny.
760
00:35:38,166 --> 00:35:41,033
Some cases, they end well,
so you can forget them.
761
00:35:41,035 --> 00:35:43,469
And some, like this one...
762
00:35:43,471 --> 00:35:45,871
they become a part of you.
763
00:35:45,873 --> 00:35:48,040
Dead kids.
764
00:35:48,042 --> 00:35:49,725
Mutilated bodies.
765
00:35:49,727 --> 00:35:51,376
It's all so horrible.
766
00:35:51,378 --> 00:35:53,212
How do you do it?
767
00:35:56,016 --> 00:36:00,436
Irish statesman and author
Edmund Burke once wrote,
768
00:36:00,438 --> 00:36:03,606
"The only thing necessary
for the triumph of evil
769
00:36:03,608 --> 00:36:06,575
is for good men
to do nothing."
770
00:36:07,778 --> 00:36:10,663
This job isn't
just what I do,
771
00:36:10,665 --> 00:36:12,665
it's who I am.
772
00:36:12,667 --> 00:36:14,500
Is it worth it?
773
00:36:14,502 --> 00:36:17,369
For every life we save?
774
00:36:17,371 --> 00:36:19,238
Damn right it is.
775
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:20,790
Absolutely it's worth it.
776
00:36:20,792 --> 00:36:23,592
I can't imagine
doing anything else.
777
00:36:26,596 --> 00:36:28,214
Yes, Mr. Zimmerman.
778
00:36:28,216 --> 00:36:32,384
So, you have to go visit
this guy every year
779
00:36:32,386 --> 00:36:34,553
to get the name
of another victim.
780
00:36:34,555 --> 00:36:36,388
That's right.
781
00:36:36,491 --> 00:36:38,692
So what was the special day
of his choosing?
782
00:36:43,530 --> 00:36:45,632
You really don't want us
to go with you?
783
00:36:45,634 --> 00:36:46,800
It's no trouble at all.
784
00:36:46,802 --> 00:36:47,751
No, it's ok.
785
00:36:47,753 --> 00:36:49,803
Rossi, it's like
2 hours away.
786
00:36:49,805 --> 00:36:52,138
Come on, I can drive. I'll get
us there in less than an hour.
787
00:36:52,140 --> 00:36:53,206
I'm good, really.
788
00:36:53,208 --> 00:36:55,058
We could stop for dinner
on the way home.
789
00:36:55,060 --> 00:36:56,042
Stop.
790
00:36:56,044 --> 00:36:58,261
All of you.
I'll be fine.
791
00:36:58,263 --> 00:37:00,897
We'll see you
tomorrow.
792
00:37:00,899 --> 00:37:02,882
You bet.
793
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,988
Ohh, is he gonna be ok?
794
00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:09,889
Of course he is.
795
00:37:09,891 --> 00:37:12,075
It's Rossi.
796
00:37:55,453 --> 00:37:57,487
Agent Rossi.
797
00:37:57,489 --> 00:38:00,490
I can't believe
it's been a year already.
798
00:38:00,492 --> 00:38:03,376
Time flies.
799
00:38:05,046 --> 00:38:07,998
Man, you must have
some serious juice.
800
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,334
Thought for sure
we were gonna have to cancel.
801
00:38:11,336 --> 00:38:14,170
Riot in the yard,
tight-ass warden.
802
00:38:14,172 --> 00:38:18,158
Whole place
is locked down.
803
00:38:19,477 --> 00:38:22,762
Any plans for the big day?
804
00:38:25,349 --> 00:38:30,470
Come on. You should get out
and do something.
805
00:38:30,472 --> 00:38:33,073
Never know how many
of these you got left.
806
00:38:33,075 --> 00:38:34,574
What's her name?
807
00:38:34,576 --> 00:38:38,478
I used to hate birthdays
when I was a kid.
808
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,964
That's why I like
celebrating yours.
809
00:38:40,966 --> 00:38:43,833
Her name.
810
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,095
Took her in Eureka.
811
00:38:55,097 --> 00:38:58,765
Drove her out to the
Headwaters Forest Preserve
812
00:38:58,767 --> 00:39:01,117
up on Elk River Road.
813
00:39:02,169 --> 00:39:04,971
100 yards South of
the trailhead,
814
00:39:04,973 --> 00:39:08,308
put her under
a big old Sequoia.
815
00:39:23,241 --> 00:39:26,042
Open gate 241.
816
00:39:33,535 --> 00:39:38,088
# Happy Birthday to you #
817
00:39:39,374 --> 00:39:44,877
# Happy Birthday to you #
818
00:39:44,879 --> 00:39:51,884
# Happy Birthday, Agent Rossi #
819
00:39:51,886 --> 00:39:57,690
# Happy Birthday to you #
820
00:39:59,443 --> 00:40:02,579
And many more.
821
00:40:21,767 --> 00:40:25,767
== sync, corrected by elderman ==
822
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,134