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Freeman: Time.

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It's all around us.

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But is it what we think it is?

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Time seems to flow forward...

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...but can it run backward?

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Do events unfold
one after another,

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or do past, present, and future
exist side-by-side?

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It's one of the most
challenging topics in science,

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questioning our most basic
assumptions about reality.

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Is time a fundamental
part of the Universe,

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or could it be that time
doesn't really exist?

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Space, time, life itself.

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The secrets of the cosmos
lie Through the Wormhole.

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What time is it?

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I could tell you it's 9:02 p.m.,

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but your time may vary,

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depending on where
and when you are.

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For most of us,

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time was a set of numbers
we use to gauge our days.

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We live our lives
by the clock -

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waking up, racing to work,
going to bed, and on and on.

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It wasn't always like that.

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When I was a kid,
summers were timeless.

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I had no particular place to be,

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no appointments to be kept.

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My days were bounded
only by the position of the sun.

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Time didn't matter
so much back then.

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Now my life
is a race against time.

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But what am I racing against?

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Is time a real thing
built into the Universe?

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Or is it just an abstraction,

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something we humans created

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to keep our
civilizations running?

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For the answer,

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we have to ask
a deceptively simple question -

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what is time?

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Think about it.
Try to define it.

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It's not easy.

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Time is what keeps everything
from happening all at once,

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and so time is
that part of the world

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that orders events
in a certain way

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so they happen sequentially,
from beginning to end.

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What we're realizing
in neuroscience

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is that time is not
what we thought it was.

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Time is not something
you're passively tracking.

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Instead, it's something

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that you're actively
constructing with the brain.

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And my brain and your brain
can be very different

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in terms of how they see
the same event.

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Time just does not exist.

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What exists is

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these distributions
of everything in the world,

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these what I call "Nows."

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That's the real thing.

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What I enjoy about time is
the recording of it.

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Freeman:
To Roger Smith, time is money.

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His custom-made watches sell

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for hundreds of
thousands of dollars.

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The hardest part of the job is

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to get these jungles
of tiny gears and wheels ticking

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at precisely spaced intervals.

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To bring a watch to time,

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it can be quite a lengthy
and complex process,

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and this particular wheel
has to be perfectly balanced.

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And if it isn't
perfectly balanced,

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then your watch will keep
different rates,

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different times
in different positions.

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Freeman: Roger's goal is

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to get his watches
to match Greenwich Mean Time,

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the time that every clock
around the world uses

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as its baseline.

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It was named after this place -

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Greenwich, England.

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Time as we know it
was born here.

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In 1884,

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a world conference decided
that the meridian line

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that passes through
the observatory at Greenwich

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was to be
the Initial Meridian -

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the master time
for planet Earth.

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Greenwich Mean Time is
our best approximation of time

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as described
by Sir Isaac Newton -

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a steady beat pounding

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behind the scenes
of the Universe.

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Newton believed the Universe
was like a giant clock

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set into motion by God.

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But Newton got it wrong.

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Lee Smolin is a
theoretical physicist

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trying to solve
the mysteries of time.

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Newton's concept of time
was that it was absolute.

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It was like a metronome,
which, as he said,

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ticks on absolutely,
without regard

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to whether anything is happening
in the Universe or not,

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even if nothing is happening.

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For example,
even if in our studio here,

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no music is playing,

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the metronome just kicks on
absolutely at the same rate,

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no matter what is going on.

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The problem with this is
that it's actually impossible

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for any of us to
detect absolute time.

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We don't detect absolute time.

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We detect time as relationships
between things that happen,

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and we can illustrate this

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by asking the musicians
to start up the music.

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One, two, three, four.

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And they start to play,

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and they develop time
between themselves,

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a relational time
completely built

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from the relationships between
the notes they're playing,

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the events they're creating.

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That's what time is really like.

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So, we can turn
the metronome off.

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In fact,
we can just get rid of it,

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and the world keeps going on,

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the music keeps going on
just as before.

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This was the great
insight of Einstein,

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and it was the basis of his
General Theory of Relativity -

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that time is created
by the relationships

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of the changes that happen
in the Universe,

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and nothing else.

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Freeman: Even today,

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some people have
a hard time accepting

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Albert Einstein's
relational time

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over Isaac Newton's
absolute time.

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But the better we get
at telling time,

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the more we can see
that Einstein was right.

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This is the Aluminum Ion
Experimental Clock

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at the National Institute
of Standards and Technology

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in Boulder, Colorado,

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America's official timekeepers.

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It's the world's
most accurate clock,

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measuring the oscillations
of supercooled atoms.

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It keeps time

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to within one second
every 3.7 billion years.

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In 2010, Boulder's time lords

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took two ion clocks side by side
in perfect synchronization,

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then moved one of the
clocks up 12 inches.

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The higher clock
went out of sync.

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It beat just a tiny bit faster
than the lower clock,

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because the higher clock is
just a tiny bit farther away

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from the gravitational pull
of the Earth,

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which slows things down.

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Einstein predicted
this would happen

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back at the dawn
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and he was just getting started.

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If we perceived the Universe
as Einstein pictured it,

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life would not have to flow
in a smooth, linear progression.

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A simple act could be
cut up and rearranged

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with no logical direction
backward or forward,

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no beginning or end.

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This is how the
Universe would look

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if we were physically
unstuck in time.

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Sean Carroll is a physicist

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at the California Institute
of Technology.

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We live in space.

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All around us, there are
three dimensions of space.

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What Einstein realized is
that time is also a dimension.

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In fact, time and space are
one thing called space-time,

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which is four-dimensional.

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That's what we live in.

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That's what we move in
and live our lives through.

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Einstein furthermore realized

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that gravity is a manifestation
of the curvature of space-time.

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You have stuff
in the Universe -

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you know, a planet
or a black hole

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or some kind of mass
or energy -

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it warps the space
and time around it,

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and that's what
we see as gravity.

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And it really is the space-time
that gets warped.

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It's time as well as space.

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So, if you travel close
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you feel the flow of time
differently than in outer space.

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Freeman: The relativity of time
causes a lot of strange effects,

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such as time running
faster for astronauts

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than people on Earth.

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But Einstein's solution
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opens up an even more
challenging notion.

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If we look around,

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we see that all of space exists
right here, right now.

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So, doesn't it follow
that all of time -

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past, present, and future -
already exists, as well?

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Could it be that the future
is already here?

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Physics says that all
the moments of time

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are equally real,

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and that tempts us into saying

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that they all exist
simultaneously,

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they all exist now,
but that's not what it's like.

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Different moments of time

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are really like different
places in space.

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They're not here.

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They exist, but they're
somewhere else.

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The difference is
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we can't help
but experience time

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one moment after the other.

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We can't go back
to moments in the past,

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and we can't, right now,
talk to moments in the future.

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Freeman: This sort
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seems to contradict the laws
of physics and human experience.

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Or does it?

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Maybe not.

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This man would argue

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that the world is filled with
people who are unstuck in time

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and that time itself
may be all in our heads.

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Is time the steady beat
behind the Universe?

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Or is time something
that changes

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from place to place
and person to person?

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The older we get,

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the faster the currents of time
seem to carry us along.

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Our relationship to time
changes as we age.

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Studies show
that the passage of time

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seems to increase
by the square root of your age.

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So, if at 10 years old,
it's 1:1,

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when you're 20, it's 1:1.4.

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And by the time you're 60,
it's 1:2.44,

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about 2½ times faster.

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We all experience time
at one second per second,

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but it doesn't feel that way.

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David Eagleman of
the Baylor College of Medicine

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has spent much of his career

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puzzling out how
humans perceive time.

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He's found that our
perception of time

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is governed by biological
and psychological states.

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Many people will wake up
just before their alarm clock,

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because as their body's
circadian rhythm

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is moving along,

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the signals in their body
tell them...

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...this is the time to wake up,
and then they pop awake.

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Freeman: Our time sense
can also be altered

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by things
such as sensory deprivation,

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overstimulation,

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and altered states
of consciousness.

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So, for example,
when people smoke marijuana,

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they sometimes feel like, "Wow,
I've been standing here forever.

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How long have I been here?"

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And it's as though their passage
of time is going slowly,

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but it's not exactly about
slow time perception.

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I believe it's about their
inability to nail down a memory,

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a landmark
of when they arrived there.

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And without that landmark,

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it feels like they've been there
for a very long time.

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Freeman: If you've ever been
in an accident,

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you might have experienced
the strange feeling

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that the whole event
was playing in slow motion.

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But unlike a narcotic haze,

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you recall everything
in vivid detail.

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This is another case
of memory warping time.

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What happens during
a really high-intensity event is

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you have an emergency control
center in your brain

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that kicks into gear

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and lays down very dense
memories during that event.

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So, it seems like
it must have taken a long time.

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Freeman:
At any given moment,

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the brain processes
and synchronizes

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an enormous amount
of information.

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Simple acts are
actually small miracles

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of the mind's speed and power.

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When you snap your fingers,
it looks like it's simultaneous.

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It looks like
the sight and the sound

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are happening at the same time.

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But in fact,
what's happening is...

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...your auditory system
is able to take information

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coming in through the ears
and process that very quickly,

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whereas your visual system
is much slower.

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So, what happens is
your brain hears the sound,

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and then it sees the sight,

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and somehow it has to
take both of those

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and stitch them together
and serve up...

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...a single story, which is
that they were simultaneous,

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even though the signals
are arriving at the brain

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at different times.

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This whole thing
is really smeared out in time,

271
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and yet it doesn't feel
that way to us.

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It feels as though
the whole thing is simultaneous.

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Freeman: It takes
a few millionths of a second

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for your brain
to put together information

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and serve it up
to your consciousness,

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which means that we're all
living a tiny bit in the past.

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This time delay is the tradeoff
our brains make

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to give us the best story
of what happened.

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But when the brain
doesn't get the story right,

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it can change
your relationship with time.

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Your personal time
becomes different from others',

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and that can have
very bad consequences.

283
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Medical journals tell
of the strange case

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of the man who went for a drive

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and noticed that the trees
and buildings by the road

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were speeding by

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as if he were driving
at 200 miles per hour.

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He eased up on the accelerator,

289
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but the cityscape
continued to whiz by.

290
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This man perceived the world
as having accelerated.

291
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In reality, he had slowed down.

292
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He walked and talked
in slow motion.

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He had become unstuck in time.

294
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It turned out
that his time sickness

295
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was caused by a brain tumor.

296
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Whatever time is,
it's deeply wired into us.

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We are all clocks
with our own internal time.

298
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David Eagleman suspects

299
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that going even slightly out
of sync with the flow of time

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can lead
to serious mental illness.

301
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I think that schizophrenia
might fundamentally be

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a disorder of time perception.

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So, imagine if there were some
deficit in your time perception

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where you didn't know
if your own actions were coming

305
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before or after
the sensory consequences.

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What would happen is

307
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you would have
a very fragmented cognition.

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You wouldn't know
which things you caused

309
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and which things
you didn't cause.

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Freeman: To show how flexible
our personal time can be,

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David devised an experiment

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that subtly warps a test
subject's perception of time.

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Eagleman: So, imagine that
I have you press a button

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and that causes
a flash of light.

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Now I inject a very small delay,

316
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so that when you hit the button,
the flash of light comes,

317
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let's say,
1/10 of a second later.

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What happens is your brain
gets used to that delay.

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It starts understanding
that when it puts out this act,

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the sensory feedback is a little
bit slower than it expected.

321
00:17:06,658 --> 00:17:08,489
So, it starts adjusting to that,

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and it starts to seem
simultaneous to you.

323
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Now, if I remove the delay -

324
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so now you hit the button and
the flash happens immediately -

325
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you will believe

326
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that the flash happened
before you pressed the button.

327
00:17:24,209 --> 00:17:26,905
This is exactly what happens
in schizophrenia.

328
00:17:26,979 --> 00:17:29,447
Somebody will make an act
and say, "It wasn't me.

329
00:17:29,515 --> 00:17:33,212
I don't feel like
I was the one who caused that."

330
00:17:33,285 --> 00:17:36,880
Freeman: Time seems to vary
from person to person,

331
00:17:36,955 --> 00:17:40,152
and the elastic nature
of our subjective time

332
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has caused David to wonder
whether time is, in fact, real.

333
00:17:44,563 --> 00:17:47,498
Eagleman:
I think that time might be

334
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the most stubborn psychological
filter that we have,

335
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and that when we start really
reaching down below that,

336
00:17:54,106 --> 00:17:55,937
when we start
really figuring out

337
00:17:56,008 --> 00:17:58,067
how time is constructed
by the brain,

338
00:17:58,143 --> 00:18:00,373
we're going to have to
go back to physics

339
00:18:00,446 --> 00:18:03,279
and rejig
all of the equations there.

340
00:18:03,348 --> 00:18:07,148
Freeman: Is it possible
to eliminate the human factor

341
00:18:07,219 --> 00:18:08,811
and pull time completely out

342
00:18:08,887 --> 00:18:11,321
of our physical description
of the Universe?

343
00:18:11,390 --> 00:18:14,416
This man says "yes."

344
00:18:14,493 --> 00:18:16,825
He's rejigged
Einstein's equations,

345
00:18:16,895 --> 00:18:21,229
and he's found
that time may not exist at all.

346
00:18:29,708 --> 00:18:32,108
Declaring that time
is an illusion

347
00:18:32,177 --> 00:18:33,439
may sound radical,

348
00:18:33,512 --> 00:18:36,879
but the denial of time
is an old idea -

349
00:18:36,949 --> 00:18:40,749
2,500 years old.

350
00:18:40,819 --> 00:18:45,313
In 500 B.C.,
the philosopher Parmenides

351
00:18:45,390 --> 00:18:48,223
declared that motion
is impossible

352
00:18:48,293 --> 00:18:50,727
because for an object to move
any distance,

353
00:18:50,796 --> 00:18:52,354
it would have to pass through

354
00:18:52,431 --> 00:18:54,797
an infinite series
of fractional steps

355
00:18:54,867 --> 00:18:57,199
to get from one place
to another,

356
00:18:57,269 --> 00:19:00,932
and no one
can take infinite steps.

357
00:19:01,006 --> 00:19:05,602
And if motion is impossible,
then change is also impossible.

358
00:19:05,677 --> 00:19:09,010
So, therefore,
time must be an illusion.

359
00:19:09,081 --> 00:19:12,414
No one knew
quite what to make of this.

360
00:19:12,484 --> 00:19:14,475
Surely, motion is real.

361
00:19:14,553 --> 00:19:18,649
Things do change
and time does pass, right?

362
00:19:22,294 --> 00:19:24,194
Maybe not.

363
00:19:24,263 --> 00:19:27,164
In an ancient village
in the English countryside,

364
00:19:27,232 --> 00:19:30,258
this man thinks that the laws
of quantum physics prove

365
00:19:30,335 --> 00:19:33,133
that Parmenides was right.

366
00:19:33,205 --> 00:19:38,165
His name is Julian Barbour.

367
00:19:38,243 --> 00:19:41,770
Decades ago, he began carefully
laying out a mathematical case

368
00:19:41,847 --> 00:19:45,578
that the Universe
doesn't need time,

369
00:19:45,651 --> 00:19:52,352
which is a bit odd,
as he's surrounded by the past.

370
00:19:52,424 --> 00:19:57,361
We're standing in the town,
which is a very ancient street,

371
00:19:57,429 --> 00:20:01,525
and behind me is my home,
built 1659.

372
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,329
Newton was 17 then,

373
00:20:03,402 --> 00:20:06,496
just seriously beginning
to think about time and motion.

374
00:20:06,572 --> 00:20:09,040
Freeman:
If time doesn't exist,

375
00:20:09,107 --> 00:20:12,702
what's all this?

376
00:20:12,778 --> 00:20:17,613
To Julian, everything we see
is an archaeological dig.

377
00:20:17,683 --> 00:20:20,015
Things are there first,

378
00:20:20,085 --> 00:20:23,885
and time is deduced from it
afterwards.

379
00:20:23,956 --> 00:20:27,357
He believes
this 1,000-year-old church

380
00:20:27,426 --> 00:20:29,860
and these
14th-century wall paintings

381
00:20:29,928 --> 00:20:34,922
are proof that the whole of time
exists in slices of space.

382
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,902
Barbour:
Our past is just another world,

383
00:20:38,971 --> 00:20:42,429
or it's another possible
configuration of the Universe.

384
00:20:42,507 --> 00:20:44,031
It's another now.

385
00:20:48,213 --> 00:20:50,374
And this is literally true.

386
00:20:50,449 --> 00:20:53,907
The instant is not in time.
Time is in the instant.

387
00:20:56,321 --> 00:20:58,653
Freeman:
Julian's radical view of time

388
00:20:58,724 --> 00:21:01,625
grows out of
the Wheeler-Dewitt Equation,

389
00:21:01,693 --> 00:21:05,060
a mathematical exercise
from the 1960s

390
00:21:05,130 --> 00:21:08,588
that sought to reconcile
Einstein's Relativity

391
00:21:08,667 --> 00:21:11,067
with quantum mechanics.

392
00:21:11,136 --> 00:21:14,071
A strange thing happens
when you do this.

393
00:21:14,139 --> 00:21:18,769
You're left with an equation
that has no "T" for time.

394
00:21:18,844 --> 00:21:23,645
Since this runs counter
to observable reality,

395
00:21:23,715 --> 00:21:26,582
most saw the equation
as further proof

396
00:21:26,652 --> 00:21:29,553
that quantum physics
and relativity theory

397
00:21:29,621 --> 00:21:31,088
don't play well together.

398
00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:36,421
But to Julian,
it was a revelation.

399
00:21:36,495 --> 00:21:40,591
There is no unique history
in quantum mechanics.

400
00:21:40,666 --> 00:21:41,758
And if the evidence

401
00:21:41,833 --> 00:21:44,393
from the attempts to combine
quantum mechanics

402
00:21:44,469 --> 00:21:46,960
with Einstein's
General Relativity is right,

403
00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:48,301
there is no time at all.

404
00:21:48,373 --> 00:21:51,604
Freeman: So at the deepest level
of reality,

405
00:21:51,677 --> 00:21:53,702
time doesn't exist.

406
00:21:53,779 --> 00:21:57,010
What matters is
how objects relate to each other

407
00:21:57,082 --> 00:22:00,176
in freeze frames of space.

408
00:22:00,252 --> 00:22:01,810
My view of the Universe -

409
00:22:01,887 --> 00:22:04,685
it's just like a huge collection
of snapshots

410
00:22:04,756 --> 00:22:08,385
which are immensely,
richly structured.

411
00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:11,918
They're not in any communication
with each other.

412
00:22:11,997 --> 00:22:14,090
They're worlds unto themselves.

413
00:22:14,166 --> 00:22:16,760
But each world is so rich

414
00:22:16,835 --> 00:22:19,895
that it's, so to speak,
part of this world.

415
00:22:19,971 --> 00:22:21,905
It's snapshots within snapshots.

416
00:22:21,973 --> 00:22:25,431
This is really what
our life is about.

417
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:27,944
Freeman: Our brains assemble
these frozen moments

418
00:22:28,013 --> 00:22:29,275
and play them in our minds

419
00:22:29,348 --> 00:22:31,942
the same way
that still photographs

420
00:22:32,017 --> 00:22:34,042
played at 24 frames per second

421
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,180
make the images you're watching
now seem to move.

422
00:22:38,256 --> 00:22:41,225
But nothing is moving.

423
00:22:41,293 --> 00:22:45,195
What we call "time"
is an illusion.

424
00:22:47,799 --> 00:22:50,324
Barbour:
In some very deep sense,

425
00:22:50,402 --> 00:22:53,269
the Universe,
the quantum Universe,

426
00:22:53,338 --> 00:22:54,828
is just static.

427
00:22:54,906 --> 00:22:56,271
Nothing changes.

428
00:22:56,341 --> 00:22:58,206
Freeman:
And according to Julian,

429
00:22:58,276 --> 00:23:00,335
all of these snapshots
of the Universe

430
00:23:00,412 --> 00:23:04,178
exist simultaneously.

431
00:23:04,249 --> 00:23:09,710
If I were to say that
my yesterday no longer exists,

432
00:23:09,788 --> 00:23:14,122
it would be like the number 13
saying that 11 has died.

433
00:23:14,192 --> 00:23:17,525
Mathematicians would
regard that as ridiculous.

434
00:23:17,596 --> 00:23:20,724
This instant is so vital
and so alive,

435
00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:23,290
but in a way, it's eternal.

436
00:23:23,368 --> 00:23:26,269
This when you translate that
into mathematics,

437
00:23:26,338 --> 00:23:27,930
it's eternal.

438
00:23:31,143 --> 00:23:35,307
Julian Barbour's view of time
may sound radical,

439
00:23:35,380 --> 00:23:39,009
but it's taken very seriously
by the physics community,

440
00:23:39,084 --> 00:23:41,917
which doesn't mean
everyone agrees with him.

441
00:23:41,987 --> 00:23:43,249
Far from it.

442
00:23:43,321 --> 00:23:45,551
Julian's close friend Lee Smolin

443
00:23:45,624 --> 00:23:47,558
is also one of
his biggest critics.

444
00:23:47,626 --> 00:23:49,890
Smolin:
Time is not an illusion.

445
00:23:49,961 --> 00:23:52,896
Time is not a construction.

446
00:23:52,964 --> 00:23:55,296
Time is not emergent.

447
00:23:55,367 --> 00:23:58,495
Time really is real.

448
00:23:58,570 --> 00:24:00,868
The idea
that time is an illusion

449
00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:03,430
has ignited a civil war
in physics -

450
00:24:03,508 --> 00:24:07,205
a war that pits friend
against friend.

451
00:24:15,086 --> 00:24:20,649
Is time an illusion we create
to make sense of the Universe?

452
00:24:20,725 --> 00:24:24,661
Neurologists and physicists say
it might be so.

453
00:24:24,729 --> 00:24:28,028
But there's another camp
that says we can't ignore

454
00:24:28,099 --> 00:24:30,897
what our senses and
observations tell us,

455
00:24:30,969 --> 00:24:35,099
that time really does exist.

456
00:24:38,109 --> 00:24:39,508
In this view,

457
00:24:39,578 --> 00:24:42,570
we experience the world
as a flow of moments

458
00:24:42,647 --> 00:24:45,115
because that's the way
nature is.

459
00:24:45,183 --> 00:24:48,880
Passage of time is a basic truth

460
00:24:48,954 --> 00:24:54,824
and, in fact, may be the one
true thing in the Universe.

461
00:24:54,893 --> 00:24:58,056
Tim Maudlin
is a philosopher of physics

462
00:24:58,129 --> 00:24:59,721
at Rutgers University.

463
00:25:01,566 --> 00:25:04,296
To say that the passage of time
is really an illusion

464
00:25:04,369 --> 00:25:07,167
suggests that it's not really,
really the case

465
00:25:07,239 --> 00:25:09,173
that I'm getting older
all the time,

466
00:25:09,241 --> 00:25:12,904
that I should be worried
that my death is, every day,

467
00:25:12,978 --> 00:25:15,469
one day closer to me and so on.

468
00:25:15,547 --> 00:25:18,448
But I just can't believe that.

469
00:25:18,517 --> 00:25:21,486
As hard as I try,
I can't believe it,

470
00:25:21,553 --> 00:25:23,680
and it doesn't fit
with the world I live in.

471
00:25:23,755 --> 00:25:25,552
Freeman: For Tim,

472
00:25:25,624 --> 00:25:29,958
it is just common sense
that time exists.

473
00:25:30,028 --> 00:25:33,794
So, why do some physicists
deny it?

474
00:25:33,865 --> 00:25:36,663
Tim thinks
it's an occupational hazard

475
00:25:36,735 --> 00:25:38,965
of working with math.

476
00:25:39,037 --> 00:25:41,938
Our representations in physics
are all mathematical,

477
00:25:42,007 --> 00:25:43,907
and mathematical objects
are not in time.

478
00:25:43,975 --> 00:25:46,307
Mathematical objects
don't change.

479
00:25:46,378 --> 00:25:50,212
So, if you work too much
with numbers

480
00:25:50,282 --> 00:25:52,682
and numbers don't change

481
00:25:52,751 --> 00:25:55,151
and you're using that
to represent the world,

482
00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:56,517
it might seem hard to see

483
00:25:56,588 --> 00:25:59,489
how the world itself
can really be changing.

484
00:25:59,558 --> 00:26:01,890
People seem to be stuck
on the idea

485
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,860
that the world has the features

486
00:26:03,929 --> 00:26:06,193
of the mathematics
that they use to represent it.

487
00:26:06,264 --> 00:26:07,458
That allowed people

488
00:26:07,532 --> 00:26:10,126
to get carried away
with their mathematics

489
00:26:10,201 --> 00:26:12,635
and lose sight
of the physical world.

490
00:26:12,704 --> 00:26:14,672
Freeman:
Julian Barbour believes

491
00:26:14,739 --> 00:26:19,176
space is all there is
and time is an illusion.

492
00:26:19,244 --> 00:26:22,805
Tim says
Julian has got it all wrong.

493
00:26:22,881 --> 00:26:27,181
We need time,
but we don't need space.

494
00:26:27,252 --> 00:26:29,982
Maudlin: We can make space
not fundamental,

495
00:26:30,055 --> 00:26:32,250
but time remains fundamental.

496
00:26:32,324 --> 00:26:34,690
There doesn't have to be
anything more than time,

497
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:36,522
and you can't do it
the other way around.

498
00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:38,586
You have to start with space
and then get time.

499
00:26:38,663 --> 00:26:42,895
So, time is
at the very bottom level.

500
00:26:42,968 --> 00:26:45,300
I think even this is
what the physics is telling us,

501
00:26:45,370 --> 00:26:47,804
although we haven't been
paying enough attention to it.

502
00:26:49,708 --> 00:26:51,972
Freeman:
Did space come first...

503
00:26:52,043 --> 00:26:54,273
Or did time come first?

504
00:26:54,346 --> 00:26:56,507
This argument
leads all the way back

505
00:26:56,581 --> 00:26:59,015
to the explosive birth
of our Universe -

506
00:26:59,084 --> 00:27:00,449
the Big Bang.

507
00:27:03,455 --> 00:27:07,653
Physicists agree
that the Big Bang created space.

508
00:27:07,726 --> 00:27:12,390
They don't agree
on whether it also created time.

509
00:27:16,868 --> 00:27:19,769
Smolin: There's a lot of people
in physics and philosophy

510
00:27:19,838 --> 00:27:21,863
who think
that time is an illusion,

511
00:27:21,940 --> 00:27:23,202
that what's really true

512
00:27:23,274 --> 00:27:26,072
at the deepest, deepest level
is timeless,

513
00:27:26,144 --> 00:27:28,237
is outside of time.

514
00:27:28,313 --> 00:27:29,610
And I don't believe that.

515
00:27:29,681 --> 00:27:31,205
I used to believe that,

516
00:27:31,282 --> 00:27:32,772
but I've come to believe

517
00:27:32,851 --> 00:27:35,046
that time is really,
really real.

518
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:36,587
Freeman:
Lee Smolin believes

519
00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:39,749
that time is older
than the Universe -

520
00:27:39,824 --> 00:27:42,554
it was here before the Big Bang,

521
00:27:42,627 --> 00:27:44,959
and it will be here
after the Universe ends.

522
00:27:45,030 --> 00:27:48,227
And he thinks he can prove it

523
00:27:48,299 --> 00:27:51,860
by looking closely at
how particles of light behave

524
00:27:51,936 --> 00:27:53,961
over long distances.

525
00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:56,599
One of the core laws
of physics states

526
00:27:56,675 --> 00:28:01,669
that light travels
at 186,282 miles per second.

527
00:28:01,746 --> 00:28:04,237
If time is an illusion,

528
00:28:04,315 --> 00:28:08,479
then this will be true
everywhere in the Universe,

529
00:28:08,553 --> 00:28:10,885
no matter where we look.

530
00:28:10,955 --> 00:28:13,617
But if time is real,

531
00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:17,321
it's possible that
the laws of physics have changed

532
00:28:17,395 --> 00:28:21,058
as the Universe has aged.

533
00:28:21,132 --> 00:28:24,363
If a basic law of physics
such as the speed of light

534
00:28:24,436 --> 00:28:27,963
doesn't hold true out in
the oldest part of the Universe,

535
00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:30,735
we'll know
that physics has evolved

536
00:28:30,809 --> 00:28:33,243
since the Universe was born,

537
00:28:33,311 --> 00:28:37,771
so time can't be an illusion.

538
00:28:37,849 --> 00:28:39,339
There should be
some experiments

539
00:28:39,417 --> 00:28:41,282
where, if you look
very sensitively,

540
00:28:41,352 --> 00:28:44,082
maybe the speed of light
is not universal.

541
00:28:44,155 --> 00:28:46,783
And there are such experiments
which are being done.

542
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,591
Freeman:
The Fermi Space Telescope

543
00:28:50,662 --> 00:28:52,630
is one such experiment.

544
00:28:52,697 --> 00:28:55,689
Fermi records
gamma-ray bursts -

545
00:28:55,767 --> 00:28:58,201
strange blasts of energy

546
00:28:58,269 --> 00:29:00,794
from the farthest reaches
of the Universe.

547
00:29:00,872 --> 00:29:04,740
These bursts give us the chance
to check out the laws of physics

548
00:29:04,809 --> 00:29:08,006
as they were
13 billion years ago.

549
00:29:09,547 --> 00:29:12,846
Imagine two photons
race out of a gamma-ray burst

550
00:29:12,917 --> 00:29:15,886
10 billion light-years away.

551
00:29:15,954 --> 00:29:21,221
One photon bursts
with more energy than the other.

552
00:29:22,861 --> 00:29:25,261
In our part of the Universe,

553
00:29:25,330 --> 00:29:30,165
both photons will travel
at exactly the same speed.

554
00:29:30,235 --> 00:29:32,226
But if the physics of light
are different

555
00:29:32,303 --> 00:29:34,863
in an older part
of the Universe,

556
00:29:34,939 --> 00:29:37,703
Lee believes
the higher-energy photon

557
00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:39,835
should fall slightly behind.

558
00:29:43,815 --> 00:29:45,715
Smolin: It would break down
at the point where,

559
00:29:45,784 --> 00:29:47,649
after 10 billion years,

560
00:29:47,719 --> 00:29:49,744
one of them would be a second
or two or three seconds ahead,

561
00:29:49,821 --> 00:29:53,848
but that's enough
to be detected.

562
00:29:53,925 --> 00:29:56,723
Even one second worth
over 10 billion years -

563
00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:58,092
we can detect that.

564
00:29:58,163 --> 00:30:00,563
Freeman: The gamma-ray burst
data from Fermi

565
00:30:00,632 --> 00:30:03,260
will come in
over the next few years.

566
00:30:03,334 --> 00:30:05,529
Lee may soon have his proof

567
00:30:05,603 --> 00:30:08,697
that the now
of 13 billion years ago

568
00:30:08,773 --> 00:30:11,537
is truly different from our now,

569
00:30:11,609 --> 00:30:15,375
and therefore,
time must be real.

570
00:30:15,446 --> 00:30:19,473
Conclusive proof that the laws
of physics change over time

571
00:30:19,551 --> 00:30:21,178
would settle the debate

572
00:30:21,252 --> 00:30:24,949
over whether time is real
or an illusion.

573
00:30:25,023 --> 00:30:29,119
But it still leaves
a big question unanswered -

574
00:30:29,194 --> 00:30:31,662
why is there time?

575
00:30:31,729 --> 00:30:35,290
In theory, physics
doesn't seem to need time,

576
00:30:35,366 --> 00:30:38,858
and yet we feel ourselves
moving through it.

577
00:30:38,937 --> 00:30:41,872
If time wasn't born
in our minds,

578
00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:44,067
then where did it come from?

579
00:30:45,877 --> 00:30:48,471
Sean Carroll
thinks he has the answer.

580
00:30:48,546 --> 00:30:52,141
But it takes
an evil-twin universe

581
00:30:52,217 --> 00:30:55,983
with backward-flowing time
to make it all work.

582
00:31:01,793 --> 00:31:04,762
Theories abound
about how time works,

583
00:31:04,829 --> 00:31:08,094
in the Universe
and in our minds.

584
00:31:08,166 --> 00:31:11,829
But it's a rare physicist
who asks the question,

585
00:31:11,903 --> 00:31:14,633
"Why is there time?"

586
00:31:14,706 --> 00:31:18,574
If time isn't something
we humans invented,

587
00:31:18,643 --> 00:31:22,340
then where did it come from?

588
00:31:22,413 --> 00:31:27,009
Sean Carroll thinks he knows.

589
00:31:27,085 --> 00:31:29,679
Sean is a theoretical physicist

590
00:31:29,754 --> 00:31:32,780
at the California Institute
of Technology.

591
00:31:32,857 --> 00:31:34,085
Time is real.

592
00:31:34,158 --> 00:31:36,490
We use it every day.
The evidence is all around us.

593
00:31:36,561 --> 00:31:37,755
But as scientists,

594
00:31:37,829 --> 00:31:40,024
the more we think about
what time really means,

595
00:31:40,098 --> 00:31:41,690
the more mysterious it becomes.

596
00:31:41,766 --> 00:31:44,394
Freeman: Sean accepts
the common-sense idea

597
00:31:44,469 --> 00:31:48,064
that time moves forward
from the past to the future,

598
00:31:48,139 --> 00:31:49,731
like an arrow.

599
00:31:49,807 --> 00:31:52,708
But why does time have
a direction?

600
00:31:52,777 --> 00:31:55,405
Sean believes
the answer is closely tied

601
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,643
to something called entropy.

602
00:32:04,255 --> 00:32:07,452
What makes time special
is a law of physics,

603
00:32:07,525 --> 00:32:08,890
the Second Law
of Thermodynamics.

604
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,723
The Second Law essentially says

605
00:32:10,795 --> 00:32:13,229
that as time goes on,
entropy increases.

606
00:32:13,298 --> 00:32:17,166
Entropy is telling us
how messy things are,

607
00:32:17,235 --> 00:32:20,068
how disorderly, how chaotic
things are in the Universe.

608
00:32:20,138 --> 00:32:21,332
So in the past,

609
00:32:21,406 --> 00:32:23,340
if you go all the way back
to the early universe,

610
00:32:23,408 --> 00:32:24,875
it was very organized.

611
00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:27,434
It was like this delicately
arranged configuration

612
00:32:27,512 --> 00:32:28,774
of billiard balls.

613
00:32:28,846 --> 00:32:31,110
As time goes on,
it's like we're playing pool -

614
00:32:31,182 --> 00:32:32,672
the first thing we do...

615
00:32:34,485 --> 00:32:38,080
...is we increase
the chaos of the Universe.

616
00:32:38,156 --> 00:32:40,522
As time goes on in the Universe
as a whole,

617
00:32:40,591 --> 00:32:43,321
disorderliness, entropy goes up.

618
00:32:45,596 --> 00:32:48,588
Freeman: Since the explosive
birth of the Universe,

619
00:32:48,666 --> 00:32:50,930
the increase of entropy
is the reason

620
00:32:51,002 --> 00:32:54,460
why the past is different
from the future...

621
00:32:54,539 --> 00:32:58,202
Why there is an arrow of time...

622
00:32:58,276 --> 00:33:00,574
Why we remember the past...

623
00:33:00,645 --> 00:33:02,806
Why we grow older...

624
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,974
Why evolution happens
the way it does.

625
00:33:06,050 --> 00:33:11,249
It's all because
of this increase of entropy.

626
00:33:12,991 --> 00:33:16,051
So, where's the mystery?
Entropy goes up as time goes on.

627
00:33:16,127 --> 00:33:17,116
But interestingly,

628
00:33:17,195 --> 00:33:19,129
in the fundamental
laws of physics

629
00:33:19,197 --> 00:33:20,858
underlying everything around us,

630
00:33:20,932 --> 00:33:23,423
there is no difference
between the past and the future.

631
00:33:23,501 --> 00:33:26,732
The laws handed down to us
by Isaac Newton,

632
00:33:26,804 --> 00:33:29,204
Albert Einstein,
even in quantum mechanics,

633
00:33:29,273 --> 00:33:30,535
you have no distinction

634
00:33:30,608 --> 00:33:33,668
between one direction of time
and the other.

635
00:33:33,745 --> 00:33:36,043
So, if you have
a very simple physical system,

636
00:33:36,114 --> 00:33:37,513
like just two billiard balls,

637
00:33:37,582 --> 00:33:38,776
when you knock one
into the other...

638
00:33:41,219 --> 00:33:42,584
...there is no difference

639
00:33:42,653 --> 00:33:44,120
between one direction of time
and the other.

640
00:33:44,188 --> 00:33:45,883
You could play
that movie backwards,

641
00:33:45,957 --> 00:33:47,288
it would look perfectly normal.

642
00:33:47,358 --> 00:33:50,225
It's only when we get to
complicated, macroscopic systems

643
00:33:50,294 --> 00:33:53,229
that there's a difference
between the past and the future.

644
00:33:53,297 --> 00:33:55,492
When we have lots of balls
on the billiard table,

645
00:33:55,566 --> 00:33:57,329
things happen
in one direction of time

646
00:33:57,402 --> 00:33:58,528
but not the other.

647
00:33:58,603 --> 00:34:00,867
Or when all hell breaks loose
in the pool hall.

648
00:34:10,381 --> 00:34:13,214
So, now we have noise,

649
00:34:13,284 --> 00:34:15,980
breaking glass,
blood splattering.

650
00:34:16,054 --> 00:34:17,112
These are all processes

651
00:34:17,188 --> 00:34:19,213
that increase the entropy
of the Universe.

652
00:34:19,290 --> 00:34:22,020
Together, all of these increases
of entropy

653
00:34:22,093 --> 00:34:23,560
define the arrow of time.

654
00:34:23,628 --> 00:34:24,856
The question is,

655
00:34:24,929 --> 00:34:27,921
why was the entropy so low
to begin with?

656
00:34:27,999 --> 00:34:30,627
Our Universe seems to be
out of balance.

657
00:34:30,701 --> 00:34:31,929
The far, far future

658
00:34:32,003 --> 00:34:34,836
is going to be
a very, very disorganized place,

659
00:34:34,906 --> 00:34:38,000
but the far, far past
was highly organized.

660
00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:41,273
As physicists, this kind
of imbalance really bugs us.

661
00:34:46,117 --> 00:34:48,210
Freeman:
Sean looked for an explanation

662
00:34:48,286 --> 00:34:50,584
of this imbalance of time,

663
00:34:50,655 --> 00:34:53,249
and he found it
in the multiverse.

664
00:34:53,324 --> 00:34:56,657
According to this theory,
the Universe we see

665
00:34:56,727 --> 00:35:01,596
could be one of an infinite
number of universes.

666
00:35:01,666 --> 00:35:03,964
Carroll:
Imagine a mommy universe.

667
00:35:04,035 --> 00:35:05,525
So, this mommy universe

668
00:35:05,603 --> 00:35:08,071
can essentially give birth
to baby universes.

669
00:35:09,974 --> 00:35:11,908
A little quantum fluctuation

670
00:35:11,976 --> 00:35:15,742
can make a bubble of space that
starts small and then grows -

671
00:35:15,813 --> 00:35:19,249
starts with low entropy
and then increases in entropy,

672
00:35:19,317 --> 00:35:21,046
just like our Universe does.

673
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,417
Freeman:
So, a mother universe

674
00:35:23,488 --> 00:35:26,355
gives birth
to a universe like ours -

675
00:35:26,424 --> 00:35:31,088
a universe where
the arrow of time moves forward.

676
00:35:31,162 --> 00:35:32,959
But to stay in balance,

677
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:36,261
it also has to give birth
to a mirror-image universe,

678
00:35:36,334 --> 00:35:39,201
where time moves backward.

679
00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:41,898
This means that
in some other dimension,

680
00:35:41,973 --> 00:35:45,534
our Universe has an evil twin.

681
00:35:45,610 --> 00:35:48,670
Every bubble is its own universe
with its own arrow of time.

682
00:35:48,746 --> 00:35:51,306
Within each bubble,
the arrow of time seems fine,

683
00:35:51,382 --> 00:35:54,044
but if you compare different
bubbles to each other,

684
00:35:54,118 --> 00:35:56,780
the arrows will be pointing
in opposite directions.

685
00:35:56,854 --> 00:35:58,219
Freeman:
Sean's multiverse theory

686
00:35:58,289 --> 00:36:01,656
has attracted a lot of attention
since it was introduced.

687
00:36:01,726 --> 00:36:04,661
But will it prove to be
the ultimate solution

688
00:36:04,729 --> 00:36:08,597
to the mystery of time?

689
00:36:08,666 --> 00:36:11,191
Well, part of making progress
in physics is saying,

690
00:36:11,269 --> 00:36:13,533
"What if this is true?
What if that is true?"

691
00:36:13,604 --> 00:36:15,367
And sometimes
when you say "what if?"

692
00:36:15,439 --> 00:36:17,600
You realize, "Oh,
making that hypothetical leap

693
00:36:17,675 --> 00:36:20,041
really helps us with all these
problems we're having."

694
00:36:20,111 --> 00:36:21,942
Other times,
it just gets you in a mess.

695
00:36:22,013 --> 00:36:26,950
Quantum mechanics
and the multiverse theory

696
00:36:27,018 --> 00:36:32,615
give us interesting ways to
grapple with the riddle of time.

697
00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:36,148
What happens when we add
string theory into the mix?

698
00:36:37,528 --> 00:36:38,927
Serious weirdness.

699
00:36:46,137 --> 00:36:50,403
The mystery of time
has many possible solutions -

700
00:36:50,474 --> 00:36:55,002
time is absolute
or it is relative;

701
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:57,138
time is an illusion

702
00:36:57,215 --> 00:37:00,742
or it is the very real product
of entropy.

703
00:37:00,818 --> 00:37:04,049
But there is
one other possibility -

704
00:37:04,121 --> 00:37:06,646
an idea that challenges
our assumptions

705
00:37:06,724 --> 00:37:11,252
about yesterday, today,
and tomorrow.

706
00:37:11,329 --> 00:37:15,527
To us, time seems to flow
from left to right,

707
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,037
but what if it also goes
up and down?

708
00:37:20,104 --> 00:37:24,438
What if time, like space,
has more than one dimension -

709
00:37:24,508 --> 00:37:29,411
a hidden dimension
that we can't see?

710
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,814
Steve Weinstein, a scientist
at the Perimeter Institute,

711
00:37:33,884 --> 00:37:36,250
thinks it could be true

712
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,017
and that it may solve
another great mystery -

713
00:37:40,091 --> 00:37:42,218
the riddle
of quantum uncertainty.

714
00:37:42,293 --> 00:37:46,855
Steve is a physicist,
philosopher,

715
00:37:46,931 --> 00:37:48,990
and professional musician.

716
00:37:49,066 --> 00:37:51,057
His view of time grows out of

717
00:37:51,135 --> 00:37:55,071
one of the most mathematically
dense ideas in science -

718
00:37:55,139 --> 00:37:56,697
string theory.

719
00:37:56,774 --> 00:37:59,242
String theorists believe

720
00:37:59,310 --> 00:38:02,609
that space has more than
the three dimensions we see.

721
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,614
This got Steve to thinking

722
00:38:04,682 --> 00:38:08,482
that the same idea
could be applied to time.

723
00:38:08,552 --> 00:38:09,951
Weinstein:
I thought, "Well,

724
00:38:10,021 --> 00:38:13,149
why do we multiply
spatial dimensions so freely,

725
00:38:13,224 --> 00:38:14,486
but not time?

726
00:38:14,558 --> 00:38:16,185
And, you know,
is there any good reason?"

727
00:38:16,260 --> 00:38:18,057
So there was
a sort of curiosity there.

728
00:38:18,129 --> 00:38:20,461
Freeman:
Steve set to work.

729
00:38:20,531 --> 00:38:23,227
Time has always been treated
as a line -

730
00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:25,428
a one-dimensional thing.

731
00:38:25,503 --> 00:38:29,667
But if time has two dimensions,
then time isn't a line.

732
00:38:29,740 --> 00:38:30,968
It's a shape.

733
00:38:31,042 --> 00:38:33,476
Weinstein: If you look at
this guitar cable from far away,

734
00:38:33,544 --> 00:38:35,774
it looks like
a one-dimensional object.

735
00:38:35,846 --> 00:38:37,245
It just looks like a line.

736
00:38:37,315 --> 00:38:38,475
If you get up close,

737
00:38:38,549 --> 00:38:41,814
you can see
that it has another dimension,

738
00:38:41,886 --> 00:38:44,411
which has to do with
the circumference of the cable.

739
00:38:44,488 --> 00:38:46,649
It's like a cylinder.

740
00:38:46,724 --> 00:38:48,521
Our world
looks three-dimensional

741
00:38:48,592 --> 00:38:50,958
in the same way
that this cable from far away

742
00:38:51,028 --> 00:38:52,188
looks one-dimensional.

743
00:38:53,964 --> 00:38:57,764
Freeman: According to Steve,
if time has an extra dimension,

744
00:38:57,835 --> 00:39:01,271
then fundamental particles
like electrons and photons

745
00:39:01,339 --> 00:39:04,604
are smeared across time.

746
00:39:04,675 --> 00:39:08,270
So, an ordinary way
of describing a particle

747
00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:10,314
would be to talk about
its position

748
00:39:10,381 --> 00:39:11,643
at any moment in time.

749
00:39:11,716 --> 00:39:13,877
So the particle, or the pick,
could be here or here

750
00:39:13,951 --> 00:39:16,442
or here or here or here or here.

751
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,579
So, if I were to graph that

752
00:39:18,656 --> 00:39:21,147
and I had the time
as a vertical axis,

753
00:39:21,225 --> 00:39:22,988
I would just draw that.

754
00:39:23,060 --> 00:39:25,688
Now, if you have
an extra time dimension,

755
00:39:25,763 --> 00:39:28,527
you might visualize
the time dimension

756
00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:31,295
perpendicular
to the guitar neck,

757
00:39:31,369 --> 00:39:32,836
in this direction.

758
00:39:32,903 --> 00:39:34,837
The particle could be -

759
00:39:34,905 --> 00:39:37,203
it might be here,

760
00:39:37,274 --> 00:39:40,505
and it might be here,
and it might be over here.

761
00:39:40,578 --> 00:39:43,138
Freeman:
To put it another way,

762
00:39:43,214 --> 00:39:46,581
quantum theory tells us
that subatomic particles

763
00:39:46,650 --> 00:39:50,086
don't have definite addresses
in space.

764
00:39:50,154 --> 00:39:53,317
We can only guess
where they probably live.

765
00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:57,225
Steve suspects
they do have addresses,

766
00:39:57,294 --> 00:39:59,455
but those addresses
are spread out

767
00:39:59,530 --> 00:40:01,657
across an extra dimension
of time

768
00:40:01,732 --> 00:40:03,757
that we can't detect.

769
00:40:05,035 --> 00:40:09,028
If true,
this revolutionizes physics.

770
00:40:09,106 --> 00:40:13,099
The fuzzy quantum world
suddenly snaps into focus.

771
00:40:13,177 --> 00:40:14,439
But unfortunately,

772
00:40:14,512 --> 00:40:17,003
proving two-dimensional time
is real

773
00:40:17,081 --> 00:40:20,744
may be next to impossible.

774
00:40:20,818 --> 00:40:23,150
For one thing,
it's not easy to understand,

775
00:40:23,220 --> 00:40:25,313
even for other physicists.

776
00:40:25,389 --> 00:40:28,222
The math required
to describe a universe

777
00:40:28,292 --> 00:40:31,887
with two dimensions of time
is difficult.

778
00:40:31,962 --> 00:40:36,126
Add in the nine spatial
dimensions of string theory,

779
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,964
and people's heads explode.

780
00:40:41,338 --> 00:40:44,171
It's very challenging
conceptually.

781
00:40:44,241 --> 00:40:46,300
It's the hardest problem
I've ever worked on,

782
00:40:46,377 --> 00:40:48,436
and I think this is why
more people don't do it.

783
00:40:48,512 --> 00:40:50,480
It's very hard
to think in these terms -

784
00:40:50,548 --> 00:40:52,482
what would an extra time mean?

785
00:40:53,918 --> 00:40:55,078
Freeman: Nonetheless,

786
00:40:55,152 --> 00:40:58,815
Steve thinks
it's worth the effort.

787
00:40:58,889 --> 00:41:00,857
Weinstein:
Multiple times is one way,

788
00:41:00,925 --> 00:41:04,452
possibly the wrong way,
but it's a different way of -

789
00:41:04,528 --> 00:41:05,859
and a radically different way -

790
00:41:05,930 --> 00:41:07,625
of conceptualizing
the physical world.

791
00:41:09,867 --> 00:41:12,131
Freeman: The physicists
exploring the mystery of time

792
00:41:12,203 --> 00:41:15,001
have very different ways
of looking at the Universe,

793
00:41:15,072 --> 00:41:17,632
but they all agree on
one thing -

794
00:41:17,708 --> 00:41:20,108
we'll never solve the mystery

795
00:41:20,177 --> 00:41:22,975
if we don't do
the detective work.

796
00:41:23,047 --> 00:41:25,072
Smolin:
You have to work really hard,

797
00:41:25,149 --> 00:41:28,243
and you have to be prepared
to fail over and over again

798
00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:30,787
and to make mistakes
over and over again.

799
00:41:30,855 --> 00:41:32,982
But I think that
that wisdom also applies

800
00:41:33,057 --> 00:41:34,957
to the whole community
of science.

801
00:41:35,025 --> 00:41:39,052
That is, we have to experiment
with every stupid, wrong idea

802
00:41:39,129 --> 00:41:41,563
before we get
onto the right one.

803
00:41:41,632 --> 00:41:45,261
Time may be real

804
00:41:45,336 --> 00:41:48,305
or it may be an illusion.

805
00:41:48,372 --> 00:41:50,806
But from our perspective,

806
00:41:50,875 --> 00:41:52,968
the past is gone forever,

807
00:41:53,043 --> 00:41:55,739
and the future
is yet to be written.

808
00:41:55,813 --> 00:41:57,678
Whether or not we discover

809
00:41:57,748 --> 00:42:01,582
there are physical aspects
of time we can't perceive,

810
00:42:01,652 --> 00:42:03,279
our human experience

811
00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:06,721
of the endless cycle of
life and death won't change.

812
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:09,725
The golden summers
of my childhood

813
00:42:09,793 --> 00:42:11,852
are gone forever.

814
00:42:11,929 --> 00:42:15,456
But there are
new summers ahead -

815
00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:20,698
summers rich with the potential
of things yet to come.
